December 2011 is the end

[kurokawa]

OP - Even if it's only me playing next year, they'll still earn £10 more a month than they are now, which pays for yoshi's coffee.

It doesn't matter if people leave as long as the reboot goes well in 2012.

It's all about the money mate. £10 is better than £0. FF's brand is already on the up because of the announcement.

I don't really see your point. The ship is sinking, erm, yes. They sunk it themselves, because they're building a new one.

If you want to pay, you can goof about on the old one for a bit just to say you were there. I like that. It's only £10 max.

Stop moaning and go play something else, we don't care.

[Preypacer]

OP - Even if it's only me playing next year, they'll still earn £10 more a month than they are now, which pays for yoshi's coffee.

It doesn't matter if people leave as long as the reboot goes well in 2012.

It's all about the money mate. £10 is better than £0. FF's brand is already on the up because of the announcement.

I don't really see your point. The ship is sinking, erm, yes. They sunk it themselves, because they're building a new one.

If you want to pay, you can goof about on the old one for a bit just to say you were there. I like that. It's only £10 max.

Stop moaning and go play something else, we don't care.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone else pointing out the obvious.... that regardless of how many people leave after subs are reinstated, that the revenue is still going to be more than SE has been getting for the 15 months leading up to the start of subscriptions.

Simple math folks:
Currently 100% of the playerbase - however many people that is - is playing for free. SE is not getting a dime from them beyond the box purchase, which was likely used up months ago already.

Now, let's say 60% of the current playerbase leaves. That leaves 40% of the playerbase left, paying subs.

The revenue from that 40% paying subs is more than they've been getting for the past year-plus from everyone.

In other words: SE still comes out ahead.

Why people don't understand this is beyond me. I'm inclined to believe that many do recognize this, but are dooming-and-glooming it up for no other reason than they want to continue playing for free.

SE has kept it afloat despite the fact that they've gotten not a dime of revenue for all that time. Yet, despite all that, people are claiming "oh, if they start subs, people will leave and they won't be making enough money to keep the game going...."

-Cue Facepalm-

I don't know if it's wishful thinking, willful ignorance, intellectual dishonesty or just plain stupidity... but if people can't see by now that SE is committed to turning this game around at almost any cost, then they're hopeless.

[Alerith]

OP - Even if it's only me playing next year, they'll still earn £10 more a month than they are now, which pays for yoshi's coffee.

This made me lol for real. I agree!

[Mustang]

I agree with your general analysis OP. However your math is bad. 600 paying vs. 200 not paying implies 25% will stop paying according to that (obviously biased) poll, not 33%.

[Meleena]

The way I see it is that the game will have less lag when all these ppl go away

[mrpoohbear510]

The way I see it is that the game will have less lag when all these ppl go away

You're right!
Less lag
Less players
Less linkshells
Less parties
Less items
Less everything!

oh and less of a MMO.

GL with your paid head start, I think I'll enjoy it more when 2.0 comes out, maybe even create a new account just to get the full enjoyment of how the game was suppose to be. Okay I'm lying about making a new account, but I am saving some class so I can level when 2.0 comes out.

[Fanzeron]

You're right!
Less lag
Less players
Less linkshells
Less parties
Less items
Less everything!

oh and less of a MMO.

GL with your paid head start, I think I'll enjoy it more when 2.0 comes out, maybe even create a new account just to get the full enjoyment of how the game was suppose to be. Okay I'm lying about making a new account, but I am saving some class so I can level when 2.0 comes out.

To be honest, that's one of my biggest concerns: a big loss of the players community. Nobody likes to play in a "private" server with desert cities and empty fields.

[Alerith]

To be honest, that's one of my biggest concerns: a big loss of the players community. Nobody likes to play in a "private" server with desert cities and empty fields.

I wouldn't let it concern you too much. I won't say we aren't losing anyone, but the people leaving are the minority. Plus, we can't speak for the people who don't use the forum.

Nearly my entire LS is staying as well as many other friends who have their own shells. I'm not going to feel the impact that badly, and I don't think most people are either.

[Starlord]

I wouldn't let it concern you too much. I won't say we aren't losing anyone, but the people leaving are the minority. Plus, we can't speak for the people who don't use the forum.

Nearly my entire LS is staying as well as many other friends who have their own shells. I'm not going to feel the impact that badly, and I don't think most people are either.

.

No one is leaving from my LS and 95% of them don't Use the Forums at all

[mrpoohbear510]

Though I hate what SE is doing by charging their players before FFXIV 2.0 release, I can't blame them for doing so. Business-wise, this is a good move for them. SE knows that the people playing now will most likely return when 2.0 release, so instead of letting people play for free, why not charge them and get whatever they can.

Those who decide to stay and play, good for them, support SE and get your head start for 2.0, but don't act all mighty and saying you'll pay for two accounts and that SE deserves our money, especially when the company itself says the game is incomplete. I don't know about you, but when I'm playing an MMO, I like it when there's more people and competition, god I hate it when people say then don't play!

Long story short, SE is just trying to get what they can before the release of 2.0, the lost of players aren't important to them before 2.0 releases. Let the players play for free till 2.0 or charge and get some money knowing that most of them will return anyways?