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  1. #51
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    Lone-wolfe-02's Avatar
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    That's a melee DD. Ranged DDs shouldn't be able to do the same.
    I'm interested in knowing how you would balance it albeit horribly.
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  2. #52
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    I'm interested in knowing how you would balance it albeit horribly.
    Ranged DDs shouldn't do as high damage as melee. There should be a trade-off for being able to do damages from a safer spot. If ranged and melee classes can do the same damages, what's the point of playing melee?
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  3. #53
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Ranged DDs shouldn't do as high damage as melee. There should be a trade-off for being able to do damages from a safer spot. If ranged and melee classes can do the same damages, what's the point of playing melee?
    Melee LB lul
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  4. #54
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Ranged DDs shouldn't do as high damage as melee. There should be a trade-off for being able to do damages from a safer spot. If ranged and melee classes can do the same damages, what's the point of playing melee?
    Have melee a Cast time for their skills?
    Also there's a Damage penalty for being too far, you need to stay in 15y to do full damage as BRD o MCH.
    Also even if being "far" from your target can help you to be "safe" your target can los you a lot better than a melee that anyway will stick with your butt.
    I'm most of all talking about Feast, in frontline that distance can help you a far more (In my opinion)


    Btw, for the OP, BRD burst is very predictable, a BRD will burst you when he have also the other buffs up, so as healer you should look at what is he doing, and when he is going to burst you have to be fast to negate it in any of the way that the other guys sugggested you.
    Barrage last 9-10 sec, your sleep or bind 8 second for example, aside of his burst most of BRDs are not so painful (for example, me).
    In frontline unfortunately is harder to track what a random BRD is doing, but if you see one of them running to you and pop those buff up be ready to react,
    when you will get 3 Empyreal Arrow dodged during Attunement you will feel happy, trust me xD
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  5. #55
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    Enlial's Avatar
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    Aleister Noir
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Geologo View Post
    Have melee a Cast time for their skills?
    Also there's a Damage penalty for being too far, you need to stay in 15y to do full damage as BRD o MCH.
    WM and GB both remove the damage penalty. When it is in effect tho, like in lv50 frontlines, dmg is actually reduced as much at close(melee) range as it is from being very far away. Melee also have a slight natural resistance to physical damage
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  6. #56
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    TiramisuMacaron's Avatar
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    WM and GB both remove the damage penalty. When it is in effect tho, like in lv50 frontlines, dmg is actually reduced as much at close(melee) range as it is from being very far away. Melee also have a slight natural resistance to physical damage
    This is half-wrong, WM/GB remove the 1-14y penalty, but brd/mch get a penalty if they are 16y+ no matter what.
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  7. #57
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    Enlial's Avatar
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    Aleister Noir
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TiramisuMacaron View Post
    This is half-wrong, WM/GB remove the 1-14y penalty, but brd/mch get a penalty if they are 16y+ no matter what.
    huh, you'all are right xD surprised I never noticed
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  8. #58
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    huh, you'all are right xD surprised I never noticed
    It's a common mistake, there really isn't a place with all the strange PvP rules. I've helped correct it on plenty of new brd/mch players, it's too bad I can't anymore without chat
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  9. #59
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    Empty Handed
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    Why are you leaving the bard fully buffed unattended ? You deserve to die if that's the case.

    Bard burst is by far the easiest to stop in the game. Drk can stop any bard burst and let them hit like wet noodles the entire fight. Any tank can stop it. Any healer can virus/disable. Anyone can line of site barrage. And purify before sidewinder.

    :/
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  10. #60
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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    MCH can do this too, it's not really OP because they have to burn all their CDs at once to pull this off. So you can only do it once every 3 mins because of raging strikes. So as a healer you've just gotta know it's coming and be prepared. You have oGCDs of your own to counter it, like benediction, attunement and sacred prism. If you don't have anything up to protect yourself, well that's just your bad planning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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