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  1. #351
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    Zeno_McDohl's Avatar
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    Agreed. +1 to the thread.
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  2. #352
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    Februs Harrow
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    There really is no doubt about this. The chat restriction is awful. Solo-ranked queue is damn near unplayable now, especially at low rank where you're liable to get several new people in the same match. Hardly anyone even bothers to attempt to use the damn "quick-chat," and there's absolutely no coordination between team members. You can't even inform your fresh healers about their PvP skills, which every new person seems to ignore. It's a complete gong-show from start to finish.

    8v8 is just as bad. Don't get me wrong, it was always a mess, but now it's an extra special mess. I just did a match where I accidentally picked up 8 medals, and do you know know what happened? Not a damned thing. I ran around for most of the match like that and hardly anyone noticed. Two people, just two, started trying to focusing me. I'm certain that they would have gladly informed the rest of their team about my stupid mistake if they could have, but as it happens, they couldn't. I was dandy and skipped along my merry way for the entire match. That would have NEVER happened if chat functioned. The fact that they took out chat just because a few people get butt hurt over every little thing just makes it worse. This is one of the dumbest things I've seen in a video game, bar none.
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    Last edited by Februs; 01-22-2017 at 04:59 PM.

  3. 01-23-2017 01:49 AM

  4. #353
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    Sentaryuu's Avatar
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    Celi Roronoa
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    From this restriction, it means people can't talk in party chat? Is this why it seems like no one says a word? I've only just started doing Feast (done 19; won 8) for the other two GARO mounts. I honestly just thought that people weren't talking. xD Oh well it may be a good thing there is restriction, I seem to get sucky parties a lot in the ones I've done. A lot of times I don't even die once.
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  5. #354
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    Sicno's Avatar
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    This is one of the worst changes ever made to the game. It has made any serious attempt of coordinating strategies with random people impossible. Now Feast is pretty much a party game.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

  6. #355
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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    This is one of the worst changes ever made to the game. It has made any serious attempt of coordinating strategies with random people impossible. Now Feast is pretty much a party game.
    Well the game was developed with the mindset of it being like an amusement park so maybe ultimately that is their intent. Feast definitely cannot be toted as an attempt at making an E-sport with these changes.
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  7. #356
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    xJimmehx's Avatar
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    Just looking at these threads, its kind of obvious why we no longer have a chat. Quite frankly a lot of people deserve this. Some may not and i wish i could play with those people and have our chats together, but Im definitely laughing at the people who say this is stupid AND bash others in the same post. These very people are what caused this mess.
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  8. #357
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehomegaking View Post
    Just stop trying to hold everyones hand and make them feel better in a competitive environment and we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. 60 den, no feast, chat enabled/disabled it wouldn't matter.
    This again?

    The den might have been peaceful, but it was also boring and utterly brainless. You're writing as if not needing chat was a good thing. It wasn't. The reason the Den didn't need chat was because you basically repeated the exact same match on an endless loop. The doors would open and a giant Dps check would start up on who could focus the enemy healer faster. The game was usually over in under 5 minutes, and it always played out the exact same way. There was literally no variations and hardly even the bare minimum of any kind of tactics. It also opened the door to some of the worst toxicity you can find in the game: The silent meta toxicity. At the height of WD, you would literally run into back to back to back matches with the exact same party comps. It was incredibly dry.

    Now, don't get me wrong. Wolves Den was occasionally enjoyable, if you're in the mood for some mindless killing. I'd be more than happy to see it bumped up to 60 and get some dust brushed off, but repeating that same routine over and over again gets real old, real fast. Between WD and Feast, I wouldn't be surprised to see Feast queue more often, just because there is some actual thought involved with how you play it ... or at least there was, before SE took the chat out. Regardless, the problems facing Feast right now have little to nothing to do with Wolves Den. If you enjoy that game mode more, then that's your preference, but the failed simplicity of one game mode is not a justification for what they're doing to this one. SE needs to smarten up on how they handle their PvP if they plan to move forward with it in the next expansion, no matter which form of game mode it takes.
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    Last edited by Februs; 01-23-2017 at 06:13 AM.

  9. 01-23-2017 07:01 AM

  10. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Just looking at these threads, its kind of obvious why we no longer have a chat. Quite frankly a lot of people deserve this. Some may not and i wish i could play with those people and have our chats together, but Im definitely laughing at the people who say this is stupid AND bash others in the same post. These very people are what caused this mess.
    You must understand,; people are angry. They're angry because a change was pushed despite months of feedback against it ahead of time. They're angry because it complicates communication between players, which is vital to competition. They're angry because where they see mistakes, big or small, they cannot correct them even politely, and this often leads to otherwise-avoidable losses. And they're angry because even in light of all the new feedback about how terrible things are now, SE still remains silent, not even acknowledging that they've heard the player's concerns. When you add that to the already often-secondhand treatment/support PvP players/content gets, it becomes quite the breeding grounds for contempt.
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  11. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehomegaking View Post
    Real PVP arena death-matches are not widely liked by pvp'rs in any rpg-style mmo, they scare away the majority and remain mostly a niche attraction.
    Strange how WoW arena is the most popular MMORPG PvP game mode across any game to date. Weird.
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  12. 01-23-2017 11:50 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    I dunno, I guess I agree with you. You had like 900+ games in season 2 with full, unrestricted chat and never learned anything.

    Maybe you'll learn something now.
    My oh my.. That time of the month already? D: S'ok....get it off yer chest. Vae still luvs joo. (Course I can't tell you this in matches anymore but)
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