DEVS: May we PLEASE have an answer regarding the Feast and the Quick Chat feature?

[Ama_Hamada]

How do I even say anything in pvp? I used the auto translator and still says unable to use chat?

Where is the explanation on why this happened and how to deal with it and what is allowed to say?

[Sherufanir]

How do I even say anything in pvp? I used the auto translator and still says unable to use chat?

Where is the explanation on why this happened and how to deal with it and what is allowed to say?

Under Actions & traits there is a PVP tab on the left. Choose that, you should see your pvp abilities and below that buttons for everything you can say in feast.

[Ama_Hamada]

Under Actions & traits there is a PVP tab on the left. Choose that, you should see your pvp abilities and below that buttons for everything you can say in feast.

.. oh lord

they should did more to explain this and get that news out like tips in the game or something

[Sherufanir]

.. oh lord

they should did more to explain this and get that news out like tips in the game or something

There are 0 active help options to help explain pvp. As a Brd or Mch there is damage drop off based on distance. You can use purify on others. Unless you've kept up with the pvp patch notes youll miss things like that as many abilities do differ in pvp versus their pve counterparts. It relies heavily on the community teaching each other.

[Vejjiegirl]

They should did more to explain this and get that news out like tips in the game or something

This is the major problem with PVP right now. It is not new player friendly at all and players need to read patch notes and guides in order to get an idea on how to PVP.
There is no explanation in game at all on Key PVP actions and points. This is the major problem with "Toxicity" before the chat ban.


New players or even old players that didn't understand key mechanics of feast, frustrations arose because of the limited amount of time there is to teach players at the start of a match.
IMO there really was no Toxic behavior, just a lot of misunderstood information and a lack of knowledge.

For example, sometimes you would see players that would que up for pvp with ilvl 100 or below gear on, but they would probably have enough gear above i200 to meet the i150 cap in PVP.
This caused players HP to be very low, and if you tried to explain to the new PVPer that they needed i190+ in every slot to meet the max caps they wouldn't understand. It isn't explained anywhere at all about max caps and the que system for Feast allows players do this, this causes frustrations.

In order to learn about the feast game mode you had to go on the lodestone and read up on it. There is no clear in game guide at all or explanation so when things went wrong due to lack of knowledge this caused frustrations.

A lot of players don't even know that protect, defense etc do not work in PVP and that each job/class has a fixed amount of Vulnerability and Attack power bonus, you have to dive back into patch 2.4 patch notes to read this. A lot of changes to feast, jobs and Mechanics you need to do research on. It shouldn't be like this at all these things should be in game for new players to read and practice.

[Ama_Hamada]

This is the major problem withPVP right now. It is not new player friendly at all and players need to read patch notes and guides in order to get an idea on how to PVP.
There is no explanation in game at all on Key PVP actions and points. This is the major problem with "Toxicity" before the chat ban.


New players or even old players that didn't understand key mechanics of feast, frustrations arose because of the limited amount of time there is to teach players at the start of a match.
IMO there really was no Toxic behavior, just a lot of misunderstood information and a lack of knowledge.

For example, sometimes you would see players that would que up for pvp with ilvl 100 or below gear on, but they would probably have enough gear above i200 to meet the i150 cap in PVP.
This caused players HP to be very low, and if you tried to explain to the new PVPer that they needed i190+ in every slot to meet the max caps they wouldn't understand. It isn't explained anywhere at all about max caps and the que system for Feast allows players do this, this causes frustrations.

In order to learn about the feast game mode you had to go on the lodestone and read up on it. There is no clear in game guide at all or explanation so when things went wrong due to lack of knowledge this caused frustrations.

A lot of players don't even know that protect, defense etc do not work in PVP and that each job/class has a fixed amount of Vulnerability and Attack power bonus, you have to dive back into patch 2.4 patch notes to read this. A lot of changes to feast, jobs and Mechanics you need to do research on. It shouldn't be like this at all these things should be in game for new players to read and practice.

What is this BS? so basically you are telling me SE has no clue in balancing PvP nor program the game? I.. I hear you say protect does not effect pvp.. and i am sitting here.. saying.. REALLY??? are you sure?

[Vejjiegirl]

What is this BS? so basically you are telling me SE has no clue in balancing PvP nor program the game? I.. I hear you say protect does not effect pvp.. and i am sitting here.. saying.. REALLY??? are you sure?

Yeah any skill that says "Increases the Defense of target/self" (As well as the defense/Magic defense stat on your gear) has no effect in PVP zones. New players don't know this and it is not explained anywhere at all except for old patch notes.

The only thing Protect and Foresight are good for is making "Fake Buffs" .
For example if you have protect up and a Astrologian uses Retrogradation on you to remove one of your buffs, there is a chance it will remove protect instead of one of your helpful buffs.

There are a lot of other things as well, like what Sherufanir said above me about Ranged DPS distance, or the fact that Magic Damage does 50% less damage to the Ice in Shatter mode than Melee or Ranged DPS.

[DamianFatale]

I would of listened to feedback in my feast runs, but I wasn't met with anything useful. I just got called gay slurs, and told to heal, but no one helped me specifically when I was messing up.

[TiramisuMacaron]

I would of listened to feedback in my feast runs, but I wasn't met with anything useful. I just got called gay slurs, and told to heal, but no one helped me specifically when I was messing up.

They actually ban pretty quickly for calling people gay slurs. If people reported those slur slingers wouldn't have their account for very long.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Maybe a compromise of allowing chat in premade but not for solo feast because that's where all the toxicity is.