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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    I don't do top tier content as I don't have the resources, now that I've said that, here's what I really want to say:

    We have a great tool now in game in the form of Stone, Sky, Sea (SSS) that allows every player to practice rotations & get used to content, albeit solo & without all mechanics (?). SE missed a huge trick by not including the ability to have a "must have cleared SSS by 85%" (for example) setting on PF groups to ensure that only those who should know their job can get in. We have passworded PFs so this would be no different. By joining such a group you are agreeing to maximise your DPS where appropriate.

    Another option is a locked PF whereby to join you must send proof you can clear SSS or have a parse calculation using SSS DPS Calc.
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    I don't do top tier content as I don't have the resources, now that I've said that, here's what I really want to say:


    Another option is a locked PF whereby to join you must send proof you can clear SSS or have a parse calculation using SSS DPS Calc.
    I agree, this was a real missed opportunity. inb4 idiots who say SSS is unrealistic as it does not include mechaniccs. Honestly, I cannot think of a single mechanic in the game that would actually increase your DPS relative to a dummy except Ravana's DPS stance. If someone cannot output acceptable DPS in a controlled environment with zero external friction, it is highly unlikely they will do well in the actual fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    I agree, this was a real missed opportunity. inb4 idiots who say SSS is unrealistic as it does not include mechaniccs. Honestly, I cannot think of a single mechanic in the game that would actually increase your DPS relative to a dummy except Ravana's DPS stance. If someone cannot output acceptable DPS in a controlled environment with zero external friction, it is highly unlikely they will do well in the actual fight.
    Have a feeling I've completely misread your post, but anyway... problem I see with SSS maybe, is I main BLM. Rotation is entirely scripted. The ONLY challenge of blm is sticking to rotation as closely as possible while still managing movement, and minimising it as much as possible. Pew-pewing at a dummy doesn't really help, anyone can easily do the blm rotation without moving.

    Then again, I don't know if the SSS for BLM is artificially increased to account for that
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    anyone can easily do the blm rotation without moving.
    You would be wrong on this account.
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    Then again, I don't know if the SSS for BLM is artificially increased to account for that
    Both blm and mnk SSS are tuned much higher than the other dps
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    I agree, this was a real missed opportunity. inb4 idiots who say SSS is unrealistic as it does not include mechaniccs. Honestly, I cannot think of a single mechanic in the game that would actually increase your DPS relative to a dummy except Ravana's DPS stance. If someone cannot output acceptable DPS in a controlled environment with zero external friction, it is highly unlikely they will do well in the actual fight.
    The problem isn't that the dps is unrealistic in SSS. It's that it is a snapshot of performance, and not an indication of current behavior. I see plenty of people who can obviously perform, but aren't for whatever reason.
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