DEVS: May we PLEASE have an answer regarding the Feast and the Quick Chat feature?

[Lone-wolfe-02]

It's a little frustrating not being able to chat but if this stops the toxicity then i support it completely.

When i see a pf outright telling new players not to queue for feast to not impact their precious ranking then something is seriously wrong.

[Sherufanir]

It's a little frustrating not being able to chat but if this stops the toxicity then i support it completely.

When i see a pf outright telling new players not to queue for feast to not impact their precious ranking then something is seriously wrong.

That is not right and I will agree with you there. The problem is Square should continue to handle this on a case by case basis, rather than punishing the whole community. Imagine if in raids, savage, extremes, dungeons, etc you no longer had chat, just 20 or so buttons you are expected to put on your hotbar to communicate anything and everything in there all because of a few toxic players that only make up a handful of the community? If punishing everyone is seen as the best solution it may extend to that because that is what happened to feast. You can't even work with people or ask for assistance. Communication is just as important for tackling the challenge presented in PvP as it is in PvE.

[Moonlite]

That is not right and I will agree with you there. The problem is Square should continue to handle this on a case by case basis.

People keep saying this. SE does not put enough money into the game to handle pvp complaints. It has been clearly hinted that this game does not get the funding it needs (true or not). They can't be case by case pvp issues. I wish we had better support though maybe a few less bots and such but it is what it is.

[KusoWat]

When i see a pf outright telling new players not to queue for feast to not impact their precious ranking then something is seriously wrong.

Where do you even see this? People keep describing this instances of extreme toxicity but I've never seen something like this, or even close.

[Ragology]

Where do you even see this? People keep describing this instances of extreme toxicity but I've never seen something like this, or even close.

I've seen other players get chewed out. Not the most toxic community I've seen in an mmo by a longshot. Its mostly the amount of thin skinned people in pvp that get their feelings hurt when you tell them how to do better, regardless of approach.

Me: "ahh, don't forget to turn on one of your stances, AST"
Them: "Omg dont tell me how to play you're just a monk noob!"
Me: "I've got a leveled AST too though"
Them: "Elitist no lifer don't tell me how to play its my sub and I'm just here for tomes anyway!" *proceeds to feed other team to end round sooner, causing them to get chewed out by the rest of the party and then they tell the world how toxic the pvp community is*

[Pyrali]

I've seen other players get chewed out. Not the most toxic community I've seen in an mmo by a longshot. Its mostly the amount of thin skinned people in pvp that get their feelings hurt when you tell them how to do better, regardless of approach.

Me: "ahh, don't forget to turn on one of your stances, AST"
Them: "Omg dont tell me how to play you're just a monk noob!"
Me: "I've got a leveled AST too though"
Them: "Elitist no lifer don't tell me how to play its my sub and I'm just here for tomes anyway!" *proceeds to feed other team to end round sooner, causing them to get chewed out by the rest of the party and then they tell the world how toxic the pvp community is*

Nailed it!

Compared to games like DOTA, LoL, and even Overwatch XIV was a hug box before they muzzled everyone.

It's the belligerent attitude of WEH WEH DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO from whiny babies that landed us in this shit box.

[Ama_Hamada]

I've seen other players get chewed out. Not the most toxic community I've seen in an mmo by a longshot. Its mostly the amount of thin skinned people in pvp that get their feelings hurt when you tell them how to do better, regardless of approach.

Me: "ahh, don't forget to turn on one of your stances, AST"
Them: "Omg dont tell me how to play you're just a monk noob!"
Me: "I've got a leveled AST too though"
Them: "Elitist no lifer don't tell me how to play its my sub and I'm just here for tomes anyway!" *proceeds to feed other team to end round sooner, causing them to get chewed out by the rest of the party and then they tell the world how toxic the pvp community is*

That is more common in duty finder then pvp. I rarely see advice givin and the amount I do is usually one person acting like the lead and everyone follows. So that is the other thing that confuses me, why is chat taking off in pvp only when in DF people are toxic there too? For he new void ark I would explain how to dodge things and what to look for and I was told "shut up" (and half the alliance continues to get hit by the move that keeps killing half the alliance)

God forbid people actually listen in normal df and say "use lbs when the countdown reaches 4" (5 seconds without a countdown someone randomly pulls)

So that is my biggest confusion, are people really more toxic in feast then in normal DF? because I usually see the worst harassment in DFs.

[xJimmehx]

It wouldnt be so bad if they would allow you to report people with the right click option in chat. Someone called my wife a bitch today in pvp. I tried to find a report option on the chat but go figure, it was only for RMT activity. I could have reported the hard way but it should be easier and more simple. That would probably fix a lot of the toxicity in pve and pvp alike. It should also be against terms of service to go out of your way to act maliciously towards another player in any way. (not sure if it is or is not) That and they need moderators who can temp ban or mute people..Of course make it hard to become a mod and severe punishment for abusing the authority. If a mod saw my wifes earlier conversation the other party could have been muted for say.. 1 real hour and continuing to get into trouble would increase the duration leading into eventual permanent ban by official GMs.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Where do you even see this? People keep describing this instances of extreme toxicity but I've never seen something like this, or even close.

On my server obviously.

[Februs]

When i see a pf outright telling new players not to queue for feast to not impact their precious ranking then something is seriously wrong.

Even if this is true, that's not necessarily toxic. Telling someone that they should not queue for ranked Feast is subjective. If it's worded bluntly, then I'm sure it seems hurtful, but that's not really any different from telling a new person in a savage raid that they shouldn't queue for a "CLEAR" party before doing a learning party. There are varying degrees of diplomatic ways of breaking that news to someone, but the bottom line is that if you're not ready then you're not ready. It might hurt your ego, but that doesn't mean it's a toxic comment unless it's worded extremely harshly.

Real toxic or abusive chat would be more along the lines of telling someone that they're

"a steaming pile of dog-****, born from the festering remains of a broken ****** and a failed ********, and that they should go practice blowing *** bubbles at the nearest truck stop instead of wasting everyone's mother-****ing time by proving how utterly **** they are in Feast.

Now THAT is toxic chat. Just typing something like that as an example could very well get me banned from the forums ... (I may edit this post, but you get the point). By comparison, telling someone that they shouldn't queue for a specific game mode is rather tame. It's also not the type of comment found exclusively in PvP, so if that's the standard that SE is going by then they very clearly missed the mark by a pretty dramatic margin.