Farming feels pointless in FF XIV

[Vaer]

Content they add won't really change much. It is their gearing model that is the problem. Even if you add super hard dungeons, players that don't do hard content will still get comparable raid quality gear if they wait long enough.

If you have other jobs to play on the same character, the model works decently for you since you can gear something else during the catch-up patch while getting the upgrade items for your main.

If you are a raider and only play a single job you are pretty much done or close to it when the catch up patch comes up since all the gear is useless unless there are new BiS items thrown in somewhere.

[Clethoria]

- Crafting should be necessary

No, no, and no thank you. I craft because I may want some furniture or something that I don't want to pay MB prices for. Also Grand Company turn ins are a good place for seals and Free Company points. Other than that, it should stay 100% optional.

[Xyno]

Content they add won't really change much. It is their gearing model that is the problem. Even if you add super hard dungeons, players that don't do hard content will still get comparable raid quality gear if they wait long enough.

And that is one of the main reasons why the skill of the most part of the players doesnt improve- they just dont need to chase any hard content

[Airget]

No, no, and no thank you. I craft because I may want some furniture or something that I don't want to pay MB prices for. Also Grand Company turn ins are a good place for seals and Free Company points. Other than that, it should stay 100% optional.

That afterthought mentality is honestly not good, the current feel of crafters this patch feels rather neglected. Free Company Workshops were supposedly suppose to give crafters a more active role in the FC, that turned into a handful of recipes and a rarely used concept.

Build airship parts? For what purpose, the attribute are guesswork and getting the best parts doesn't really seem to be worth the effort. There should be some level of usefulness to to all crafters and the DOW/DOM since the current meta of it in a way is a trickle down concept.

Expansion starts and the gods are Alchemist/Culinary making the food/medication to help with that first push from Savage content. To an extent they remain relevant for each Savage addition but after that they become useless. The ones making gear, are semi useful but the gear is quickly outclassed so there contribution as a whole is mainly to returning players who have gil to spend and want to catchup fast.

Specialization Recipes I'd say were a failure because it just created a wait time for others to use those recipes, so it was just a bandaid to feel special for X patch and now in 3.5 everyone is the same lol.

Now here's the thing, I can accept crafters not being useful as a whole when it comes to the MSQ/Savage/Extreme content HOWEVER, why not make them useful with Eureka or the next Deep Dungeon? Would it be so bad to experiment with the idea that these two type of content could lean more on crafting reliance? Maybe give all the crafting classes the ability to make things which are only useful in Deep Dungeon but see because it's only useful in one type of content to offer assistance, it doesn't effect all the other PVE content. Same with Eureka, heck crafting classes making trap that are use in Eureka to weaken targets or capture certain creatures to use in other areas or sold. There are ways Crafting can be made useful but the only way they can do that is by experimenting and I would love it if they provided some worth to them in the two mentioned content, Deep Dungeon and Eureka because then they could experiment and see what works and what doesn't work.

[KusoWat]

Like any healer items with Det as the primary stat and no Crit, or anything with Parry...

I agree, but it goes even beyond that. We get "catch-up" patches which give low or equal ilvl gear to what people have already been farming for months. It's pretty bad when you take a look at some of the new gear and say "huh...even my alt jobs have something better."

[Iromi]

I agree with OP.

Hmm I hope they put some horizontal stuff in with SB.

[MistakeNot]

You say farming is pointless. I say "Good." Who would ever want to run the same dungeons/raids over and over and over again? Not me anyway, so if I can skip doing that without really missing anything then that is a very good thing.

[Kosmos992k]

players that don't do hard content will still get comparable raid quality gear if they wait long enough.

So, please explain why that is a problem and how it directly affects your play in any way.

You say farming is pointless. I say "Good." Who would ever want to run the same dungeons/raids over and over and over again? Not me anyway, so if I can skip doing that without really missing anything then that is a very good thing.

Having posted here for more than 3 years now, and played for the same time in FFXIV, I have to agree.

I also want to point out that the players most vocal about being bored with the game, or complaining of a lack of content are the very players who spend days or weeks grinding the same content over an over. It's no wonder they get bored.

[Garotte14]

Another thread about gear progression. Honestly none of it matters. It's a game. You play it to have fun. If you aren't having fun, don't play. There is literally nothing else that needs to be said.

[Ralts]

Another thread about gear progression. Honestly none of it matters. It's a game. You play it to have fun. If you aren't having fun, don't play. There is literally nothing else that needs to be said.

And here comes the first weak-as to defend the boring gear progession we have right now