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    Why would new players want to skip all the old content? It is not like the new content is better than the old, and for a new player it is all new to them anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Why would new players want to skip all the old content? It is not like the new content is better than the old, and for a new player it is all new to them anyway.
    Clearly, you've never joined an MMO multiple expacs deep. At some point, it gets boring going through a ghost town MMO while you wait to hit the content people are playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Clearly, you've never joined an MMO multiple expacs deep. At some point, it gets boring going through a ghost town MMO while you wait to hit the content people are playing.
    I have done that - and I was not waiting to hit the latest content. Instead I was enjoying the old content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I have done that - and I was not waiting to hit the latest content. Instead I was enjoying the old content.
    I totally agree , if Ive never done it then its new to me, Im a mentor in the nn and alot of newer players wouldnt even wana skip the story even if they dont like arr story I meant ha. I get the jump potion idea, but to get to 3.5 would take a few weeks at most its not as bad as it sounds really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I totally agree , if Ive never done it then its new to me, Im a mentor in the nn and alot of newer players wouldnt even wana skip the story even if they dont like arr primals. I get the jump potion idea, but to get to 3.5 would talk a few weeks at most its not as bad as it sounds really.
    You honestly think it would take a few weeks to go 1-50 playing through all of the main scenario quests, go through all of the 2.1 to 2.55 main scenario quests (I recall the 2.5 quests were 5+ hours alone), 50 to 60 through all of the Heavensward Main scenario quests, go through all of the 3.1 to 3.55 main scenario quests? That's completely ignoring Hildebrand, side trials, side quests, etc. I think an average player would be hard pressed to get through all of the main scenario quests alone in under 200 hours. 200 hours is five full weeks of a full-time job. Would take 10 weeks for a player who can invest 20 hours into a single game per week .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    You honestly think it would take a few weeks to .
    What do mean I see people doing this very thing right now at least gettin to the hw part, I like to play games my way and I actually stayed in novice like 4 months. Your average player is in hw after about three weeks, and then hw story really isnt even that long. Like I said I like to play a certain way I love the msq but its really not even that much to do especially if your just leveling up one job at a time.

    I just started hw story recently in total Ive maybe spend three days on it and Im half way done with the 94 quest of the main hw story. SE said they are giving exp boast as well to make it even easier to level, where the problem with old content comes in is with challenging content like the primals , or the raids thats where the ghost town is not the leveling dungeons. The actual zones an areas arent dead if anything now that Im in hw the hw areas are alot more dead than arr areas, the same thing will happen with storm blood areas you will still catch more people hanging out in lomisa than anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I have done that - and I was not waiting to hit the latest content. Instead I was enjoying the old content.
    Some people don't like entering old instances where everyone else wipes the floor with everything (which will happen during the 2.1 to 2.55 content and 3.1 to 3.55 content). Not sure if you read my full post but I mentioned that. My proposal also still gates certain new content behind the old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I have done that - and I was not waiting to hit the latest content. Instead I was enjoying the old content.
    Well, congrats, but you're not everyone.

    Look at Legion. Lots of new subs, and everyone is making use of the level boost. Why? Because they joined to play Legion. Not the old stuff. It's not isolated to WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Clearly, you've never joined an MMO multiple expacs deep. At some point, it gets boring going through a ghost town MMO while you wait to hit the content people are playing.
    I have done that twice and enjoyed old content both times.

    Besides, low levels in FFXIV are far from a ghost town. There's active discussion in NN every day, low level dungeons and PotD are frequently run by both veterans and newbies and Limsa is an equally busy meeting place as Idyllshire. The only thing that really changes at max level is the ability to raid and having a better story (which requires ARR story to understand anyway) compared to the first 40-or-so levels.
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    [QUOTE=The only thing that really changes at max level is the ability to raid and having a better story (which requires ARR story to understand anyway) compared to the first 40-or-so levels.[/QUOTE]

    All new zones, new dungeons, new raids, new 24 man raids, underwater exploration, new town, etc. would be gated.
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