The New Chat Restriction in The Feast

[GeT_ReKt]

Removing chat in The Feast was totally unaccounted for, there was not a significant amount of toxicity in The Feast compared to other parts of the game. If a player did mistakes pre3.5 other people could tell him. I myself was told to stay more in healer auras and so I tried to pay more attention to that. Now nobody can improve. If I want to give tips or heads up to someone I have to go out of my way and send him a message on obscure lodestone, which is actively used by <5% of the players, unless he luckily is on my server. Clicking these preset messages can not make up for more than 5% of the communication involved in a good match of The Feast. As LBR predicted, e.g. people now use "Nice job!" different/opposite meaning/intention. And seeing someone spamming "Nice job!" after somebody made a mistake, that did or didn't result in a loss, is just as fucking annoying as the destructive (OR PERHAPS CONSTRUCTIVE) criticism that would have followed. Now it's is doomed to the former.

[GeT_ReKt]

If a player is not able to take criticism then he should not do any kind of team sports.
LoV was terrible idea; I though that it could only get better from there on. Turns out I was wrong and removing chat significantly impaired The Feast and some inconsiderate decision maker's goal in having it becoming a popular e-sport.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Just as a reminder, there was never reason given for the chat being disabled, and this is after we gave quite a lot of feedback about how we disliked/did not want the change. The community assumes it was for reasons of player toxicity, but there's been no official word on the matter. Even now after the fact, we've still been given no answer or reasonable explanation for this terrible change.

[Jas710]

Boycott all PVP, starting now.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Boycott all PVP, starting now.

Frontlines is fine for now, but as for the Feast, I will not participate in Season 4 if they don't change this.

[RaslerNB]

Just as a reminder, there was never reason given for the chat being disabled, and this is after we gave quite a lot of feedback about how we disliked/did not want the change. The community assumes it was for reasons of player toxicity, but there's been no official word on the matter. Even now after the fact, we've still been given no answer or reasonable explanation for this terrible change.

Yeah, I found it really odd when the patch notes came out that they were changing something that for one, that has always worked just fine and needed no improvement (changes are the complete opposite of improvement) and two, nobody really asked for. Even so, if it were really for toxicity reasons I don't understand why the FFXIV team didn't just step up to the plate and take more credible action against such players, we're all being punished now because of poor design choices.

[xJimmehx]

I like that you cant talk, just a little bit. I wouldnt join pvp at all. I assumed it was toxic garbage. I only joined now because of the garo stuff. I knew that if i did join i would be kicked or verbally abused by the elitist for being new or bad or both. I got in though and nobody spoke, i got wrecked a few times, then got a little better and got out...and guess what? I had a blast! I dont know if it would have been different if people were allowed to speak. If they add chat back now i will be a little more comfortable sense i have some experience now. Though i know i would find a mean player eventually. Just like in PvE, but i do feel that something needs to be done to punish people who are rude. It should be something that works no matter the game mode though. Like a rating system that says jerks get to play with other jerks and or neutral/kind players get priority in ques. We could get player moderators to mute/punish people who need/deserve it. Maybe stopping all forms of communication was not the best way to handle it. After all it does punish every single player, kind or mean. I personally wouldnt mind learning from better pvpers on how to be better at it..

[P4X0R10N]

I\\'m glad you got to play feast without getting yelled down.

The toxicity is not bad most of the time, but it just has to happen once or twice to turn someone off from it comepletely.

So I support SE in their decision to do this.

But with that said, it feels cold and lonely in feast without the ability to chat (or even emote).

[P4X0R10N]

Couldn\\\\\\\\\\'t a reporting system be implemented where the repeat offenders, the verbal abusers, the arse hats and the like be punished by having chatting privileges be taken away and forced to use the current chat actions and the rest of us mature and sane folks continue to be able to type?

Tbh the fact that u can\\\\\\\\\\'t queue 4v4 as a full premade makes feast non esport in my eyes. So I couldn\\\\\\\\\\'t care less about how chat restrictions impact gameplay or strategy.

But it really does make feast feel quite lifeless.

Been playing my summoner in feast, and not to brag, but I\\\\\\\\\\'m killing it most games. But after a while with no one talking it feels as if I\\\\\\\\\\'m playing with cpu allies and opponents...

[Ama_Hamada]

Pretty poor choice in my opinion. I've seen worse in shouts. what next? Remove global chat?

agreed.
AT THE VERY LEAST! let us have chat within the first 2 minutes or so, usually the toxicity is not early on. Also I find the battle grounds more toxic with the sexual text picture spam, 24 man dungeons have the same issues. I was in a pvp match where we had 3 healers and I could not ask one to change to a DPS so I just did it.

This also leaves to heavy balance issues letting premades having communications outside the game to coordinate

Personally I see this action happen because GMs are unable to handle all the reports and release fitting punishments to everyone.