Anyone disappointed with the new Red Mage asthetics?

[SeriousxSarcasm]

I dunno, it just sorta looks like a BRD traded in their bow for a sword (and yet still isn't a melee). All the flamboyancy and nancying included lmao. Personally, not a big fan of the look, but it's purely a personal preference (and I'm sure I'm about to hear a dozen people say "no, your opinion is wrong because reasons." because twelve forbid anyone have a different opinion, XD). I was kinda hoping they'd make it look more badass and less... french musketeer? And no, I don't care if it's the "traditional" look for the Job, that's not going to make me like it all of a sudden.

I do think it's interesting overall, but not something that I'll be changing my main for.

[Xlantaa]

Red mage is a Mage, indeed. As is, it is a Ranged Caster. Also, wields a rapier capable of turning into a Staff. So, I guess is a very smart move. Getting 2 wepaons in one. About the suit, it is the standard Red mage cloth, so I'm ok with that.

[Vexander]

The thing with this is that if people want a mage with a staff, BLM and WHM already exist. It makes the "need" for yet another staff-that's-not-really-a-staff misguided at best, a waste at worst. It's very questionable from an aesthetics perspective, even if their going with a trick weapon can be lauded as clever.

Having seen the alternatives to staves (Book and Astroglobe) I am quite happy to stick to staves. Red Mage traditionally wears a sword, but it is also part of that Trinity of Mages which are the core of the franchise fantasy. Seeing a sword that can work as a staff as well appeals to me, because it makes the job seem more like a peer to White Mage and Black Mage, rather than a watered-down wannabe mage.

[Duelle]

Having seen the alternatives to staves (Book and Astroglobe) I am quite happy to stick to staves. Red Mage traditionally wears a sword, but it is also part of that Trinity of Mages which are the core of the franchise fantasy. Seeing a sword that can work as a staff as well appeals to me, because it makes the job seem more like a peer to White Mage and Black Mage, rather than a watered-down wannabe mage.

At that point you're not asking for a Red Mage, but simply another caster. RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, and that entails weaker attack and healing magic to compensate for their being hardier than your average mage and better at melee combat than same. This means you're trading overall magic power for melee proficiency, which has been core to the job since the first FF.

[Thayos]

Why worry about the looks? This game is so full of glamor, finding a suitable set for your preferences will be cake. Even on bard, which is my second job, I'm not a fan of the "frilly" armor, but I'm totally satisfied with some of the sets that have come out.

[Deedsie]

No, I don't like the pseudo-staff thing. Armor look can be fixable to an extent with glamour.

[GMERC]

At that point you're not asking for a Red Mage, but simply another caster. RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, and that entails weaker attack and healing magic to compensate for their being hardier than your average mage and better at melee combat than same. This means you're trading overall magic power for melee proficiency, which has been core to the job since the first FF.

You do realize Red Mages can equip more than just swords in almost every single game they appear in, right?

[Underdog2204]

At that point you're not asking for a Red Mage, but simply another caster. RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, and that entails weaker attack and healing magic to compensate for their being hardier than your average mage and better at melee combat than same. This means you're trading overall magic power for melee proficiency, which has been core to the job since the first FF.

Which will not work in FF14, so I dunno why you expected different tbh...

It has to be able to fufil one of the very specific role's otherwise the class is pointless. If it's a melee then why do we have yet another melee class and still only two magic users?

Making it a caster is the most logical route compared to just "coz". Being "hardy" means absolutley nothing just ask any DRG main. There is zero mistaking what the job is, it's not like SMN where you wouldn't be able to tell from looking at them.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I like that they have their cape, helps them feel like a true RDM (where as DRG still doesnt feel right to me, as each AF keeps getting weird alterations, and doesnt have its cape., same with DRK not feeling like DRK, as their AF went to DRG.)
But I dont care for the RDM pants, just feels off. (Probably because RDM doesnt usually have just bright red pants, but some other colors in there usually)

I also wished the body had some shoulder pads, to help make it stand out from typical mages. (Though not every RDM job in FFs had shoulder pads, I still feel it helps distinguish them in a game where many jobs have feathered hats like them.)

Which will not work in FF14, so I dunno why you expected different tbh...

It has to be able to fufil one of the very specific role's otherwise the class is pointless. If it's a melee then why do we have yet another melee class and still only two magic users?

Making it a caster is the most logical route compared to just "coz". Being "hardy" means absolutley nothing just ask any DRG main.

I agree with it being considered a Deciple of Magic class, but for its role, there is a role which can do all of those things he mentioned... Which is why people kept saying it, and everyoen thought they were crazy for suggesting it. (It's tank. Does less dmg than a DPS, does less healing than a healer, has buff spells, and just needs an enhancement to give threat, or more dmg on their sword/spells. It would then play identical to a RDM pretty much.)


SIDE NOTE: I friggin LOVE the cast animation, mixing the sword and crystal. I had NO intention of playing RDM if it wasnt equally melee focused as caster focus, or if it didnt have the ability to change its role.
When I heard it was a ranged Caster DPS, I was like, well, Im not playing this job. Then the animations alone made me change my mind. I'll be playing a DPS for once in this game! (I hate DPSing though, its so boring, I hope its fun enough on RDM, w/o trying to just be tedious, thinking that prevents boredom, because im one of the people that falls asleep to tedium.)

[Vexander]

At that point you're not asking for a Red Mage, but simply another caster. RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, and that entails weaker attack and healing magic to compensate for their being hardier than your average mage and better at melee combat than same. This means you're trading overall magic power for melee proficiency, which has been core to the job since the first FF.

FFXIV's Red Mage, however, will be a Ranged DPS, excelling at DPS primarily, and incorporating melee attacks in the course of its rotation. So, that's what FFXIV gives us, and I am happy to accept that. Red Mages from other games simply don't work with the battle system we have. Otherwise, I would agree with you. Either way, I find the sword and crystal combination appealing. Personal preference is all.