SCH pet glamors?

[GMERC]

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What this argument misses is that the fairies are pretty well different pets entirely, while the egis are still basically the carbuncles. Emerald and Garuda are the same. Topaz and Titan are the same. With Ruby tacked on because Arcanist doesn't get an Ifrit-equivalent. So the glamour system so far is just admitting the egis were a disappointment to begin with.

I'll resist the urge to spell out why and how you have particularly bad taste and instead explain that you're not exactly correct on the Eos/Selene being substantively different from Carbuncles to the point where there'd be any incompatibility.

Eos has 3 animations. Spell charging (Embrace, Whispering Dawn), Embrace Casting, and a third Twirling Casting animation used for the execution of Whispering Dawn, as well as the instant abilities Fey Illumination and Fey Caress.

Selene also uses those same 3 animations. Selene is, in effect, already herself a Pet Glamour, honestly even more so than our newly released Carbuncles are for Garuda, Titan, and Ifrit.

Emerald Carbuncle has 4 animations. Spell charging curl-up (Gust, Downburst), Spell casting uncurl (Gust, Downburst), Shining Emerald's unique animation, and a "scratch behind the ears with hind legs" animation used in Backdraft.

Not relevant to SCH but worth mentioning, Topaz Carbuncle has 4 animations unique to it. Gouge makes up its Malee attack by way of a somersaulting tackle, Shining Topaz is a standing spin attack, Curl is a unique standing self-buff animation, and Storm is a slightly different variation on Gouge.

As you can pretty plainly see, Emerald Carbuncle clearly has enough animations already existing to be able to take the place of Eos or Selene, especially since those two are in fact pretty barebones as animations go.

I would however like to take a moment to address the outright silly comment you chose to close your post with, as it's a baffling mentality I've seen echoed about a fair bit in response to the likes of Egi and Egi Glamour.

The Egi Glamour system is no more "just admitting the egis were a disappointment to begin with" as the Clothing Glamour system is "just admitting that everything you wear in the game is ugly except the things I or you like." Egi Glamour is a thoughtful response to the fact that, had they introduced new Egis without some system to encourage Summon Rotation (that is to say, rotating between different summons during battle), we'd be in the exact same position we found ourselves in without additional summons. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. For just about anything you do right now, Garuda-Egi is the go-to Summon for the job. A new summon without a reason to use multiple summons in a single encounter would only accomplish one of two things. It would either replace Garuda-Egi as the one-and-only Summon, or it would be markedly worse than Garuda-Egi and not see common use until a buff comes along and changes our situation to the one where it replaces Garuda-Egi. Even you must admit that neither of those are desirable outcomes.

Additionally, limiting 'new' Summons strictly to future expansions adding a Summon IV, Summon V, etc kind of sets a hard limit on what summons we could ever feasibly acquire. Like, at that point we'd be lucky to get anything beyond Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, and possibly but very unlikely a Bahamut or Odin.

Instead, a much more sustainable long-term idea was proposed. An idea to reduce summons to individual roles and leave their appearance up to the player. Yes, implementation of Egi Glamour has been extremely slow (taking until the penultimate patch of the expansion to make good on their promise) AND only starting with a pretty sparse offering (not even an Obsidian or Diamond Carbuncle, despite bothalready being perfectly present within the game), but I think it's a step in the correct direction. What this means is, in the future, we can potentially receive Egi corresponding to just about any Primal we encounter. And really, having been a SMN enthusiast prior to Heavensward, the idea of being able to pick and choose which Summons I use is more than I could have asked for.

Now the only long shot is whether or not we'll ever be graced with the majesty of a Remora-egi.

[Adire]

The fairies don't need glamours, they already look nice.

Egis on the other hand had many many complaints and I can understand why.

[GMERC]

The fairies don't need glamours, they already look nice.

Egis on the other hand had many many complaints and I can understand why.

Egis don't need changing, attitudes do.

[GMERC]

Your example does not apply to the relevant topic. Pet glam is completely pointless useless and a waste of THEIR time and THEIR money . that could of been put onto something more USEFUL like give us a new Egi or fix the broken pets or make Titan more relevant or remove pets all together and use their skills as a SMN skills and not pets skills.

This Glamour NONSENSE (because that's what it is at the end of the day) doesn't do a thing to your basic skill/ rotation but to >colour and hide< something that needs urgent reviewing and looking into it rather than colour it blue.

I main Smn and this is something totally worthless.

Go ahead and use a Glamour Dispeller on everything you wear, too. After all, it doesn't do anything to your basic skill rotation, so it's totally worthless. Don't forget to remove any dyes you have applied to your outfit or weapons, too. Worthless!

[Ralts]

wait for 4.0, maybe then you could summon anima herself

[Rawrz]

In the live letter it was said:

Q: What’s the status on the glamours for summoner’s egis?

A: After assessing the resources needed to make this happen, we discovered that we need an immense amount, so we are planning to release them one patch at a time. We’re working towards implementing them starting from Patch 3.4, so please hang in there a bit longer.

Was SCH considered in part of this glamour system?

I know that the question was directly for summoners, but it's an opportune time to ask. Allot of scholars just want their carbuncles back. Fairies do glamour themselves in most mythology so I feel the lore would be flexible.

I understand this has been asked 1000 times, but I thought I'd ask again.

That's was posted forever ago. No response so far

[Eolierz]

I remember from one of the Fan festivals that Yoshi-P said something about wanting to start with the Summoner class and give players the option of changing the skin of their Egi. This in time would be expanded into things like Shiva, Ramuh bahamut etc, if the playerbase would be excited about this of course. Then after that they would look at the scholar class but that was just speculation.

[Celef]

As you can pretty plainly see, Emerald Carbuncle clearly has enough animations already existing to be able to take the place of Eos or Selene, especially since those two are in fact pretty barebones as animations go.

Although I agree with you on that point I'm asking again : What will happen when they add other Egi glam that Carby to SUM but not to SCH ?
(real question, not trolling or anything so please if you answer give some arguments so we can all work this out together and show SE we can have a peacefull debat )
Carby is justified by the fact SCH and SUM are both ARC to begin with so yes, imho both should have access to Carby but we all know some of them will also want Shiva for example the day she's added to SMN, what should SE do about it ? give them access to all glam just like SMN while they are not SMN at all just to please everyone ?
The real issue is not with animation but with players reaction imo

I can understand why adding Carby to SCH is a tricky question for SE, even if, again, I agree they should ad least have access to it because shared summon in the begining but in the end, some won't be satisfied by just Carby, will want more and more ans will whine again and again :/

[Jandor]

If I remember my lore correctly, the fairy is a (at least semi)sentient being with its own memories, desires, thoughts, etc.
If you gave the soul crystal to someone else they'd summon the same fairy as you once did.

Carbuncles and egi's are constructs, the crystal helps you summon and bind Ifrit and co, but if you gave the soul crystal away they'd be gone. The new summoner would have to bind new incarnations.

Doesn't seem right to make a thinking humanoid take the form of a glowing dog thing.

EDIT: Reading through the journal entries for Scholar seems to confirm, the fairy is an independent entity that slept within the soulstone for 1500 years. Your aether is probably what gives it substance, but you didn't make it like an Arcanist or Summoner makes their pets.

Theoretically though Scholars should be able to summon carbuncles instead of the fairy. Can't see that happening though .

[Miscreant]

Recolouring the Fairy's would be nice, that way I can colour coordinate my pet to my glamour
I don't think Scholars should have the Carbuncles though, if we did it would be really hard to tell who is a Scholar and who is a Summoner at first glance and would just lead to confusion.