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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    He really didn't clear my concern up though. He talks about levelling, I am talking about narrative. His data is also not perfect as the western audience plays the game very differently from the eastern audience, and we have very different mindsets.
    How about you go and read the full interview in the link i provided. the discussion about jump potions is towards the bottom.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by BakaChin View Post
    How about you go and read the full interview in the link i provided. the discussion about jump potions is towards the bottom.
    I... did read it? and it didn't clear my concern up? Nowhere did they say how they were handling story threads and interconnection between 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0. There are major challenges there when taking into account the new audience and I'm not sure if the dev team will be able to overcome it in a way that pleases everyone.

    They talked a lot about the level jump potion, and very little about the story jump potion.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I... did read it? and it didn't clear my concern up? Nowhere did they say how they were handling story threads and interconnection between 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0. There are major challenges there when taking into account the new audience and I'm not sure if the dev team will be able to overcome it in a way that pleases everyone.

    They talked a lot about the level jump potion, and very little about the story jump potion.
    Ok, well, let's just say that the level jump potion is catered for those who want to get straight into content and don't care 2 shivs about the story. I do remember about story skip potion to get you passed some gated content, but i think it will be replaced with the level jump? i read somewhere else that it will get them access into 3.0 without going through pre-HW stuff. I could be wrong
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Would you like for them to make 4.0 like 2.0 where they make everything that came before it irrelevant for the sake of a jump potion? Because I wouldn't.
    It's clearly relevant because we're living in the aftermath. It was fairly obvious to me that I was living in a post-calamity world as an ARR player and that I was continuing an ongoing story. Half the time I was left thinking who are these people and why should I care when it was clear that they were people from 1.0.

    By your standards, ARR's story was also pretty irrelevant to HW. Ishgard's story was pretty disconnected from ARR. The only things linking it to ARR is the plot about lost Scions and Ul'dah. I think that is easily outweighed by all the backstory 1.0 provides for Louisoix, the Garlean Empire, the Scions, the Warrior of Light, various Primals including Bahamut, etc.

    You're basically saying that mankind's history is irrelevant because tomorrow is a new day. Life doesn't work like that unless you have some strange memory loss condition.
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  5. #105
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    or...you could just purchase the lore book?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    I realy dont get it.
    You want to buy a game + 2 expansions. Pay sub for it. Then pay more to not play 90 - 99% of it?
    Why you even geting in to mmo if you dont want to play the game.

    Are you making the argument that the way you personally enjoy the game is the only way?

    Fetch quests and dialogue exchanges don't turn everyone on. The jump potions allow people to skip over these parts and spend more times on areas of the game they'd enjoy.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by BakaChin View Post
    or...you could just purchase the lore book?
    or...you could understand the context of the discussion?
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    By your standards, ARR's story was also pretty irrelevant to HW.
    Ul'dah
    Ilberd
    Shiva
    Minfilia (and other scions)
    Ascians
    Garleans (3.5 especially)
    Omega (and its connection to ultima weapon)
    Midgardsormr

    Yep, 2.x was very irrelevant
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  9. #109
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    Really?how they even know what part of the game is fun for them of they bever did most of it?
    Like some of the pro jumpers just want to get some """frends""" to the game.but dont want to help this frends in no way.
    So really if se go lazy on how the game is after 4.0 becouse why care you will jump in 5.0 any ways, dont cry .
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  10. #110
    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    The Garlean empire / Nael van Darnus / Gael van Baelsar
    Bahamut / the Calamity
    other Primals and related beast tribes
    The Battle of Carteneau
    The Battle of Silvertear Falls and the entire backstory behind the formation of GCs
    Louisoix (and other scions) and all the returning characters from that had pretty significant backstory in 1.0

    ...and basically the entire framework and world for ARR.

    Yep, 1.x was very irrelevant
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