I know it's been talked about, but seriously. No Jump Potions, here is why.

[ErikMynhier]

Now I have a question that I am wondering about: How many new subscribers after JPs are implemented will ask about what happened to General Raubahn's arm? Sure you can just tell them, but then also try to remember the emotions you experienced while watching those final cut scenes. Could you feel his pain as your own? Emphasize with it? Those 100 MSQs were arduous, painful, drawn out, and TOTALLY worth it.

I felt nothing as it is a videogame with about as much of an impact on me as a cartoon has. I'm not saying it was bad, it is a great story, but not everyone is "moved" by things like this. My real life is to hairy for me to be moved by things that aren't real.

[RaijinSupreme]

I can't speak for others, but I personally have not ever told anyone to skip a CS and I don't mind and encourage that they watch every single one. However, I would wager that most who are against JPs have a similar mindset.

Now I have a question that I am wondering about: How many new subscribers after JPs are implemented will ask about what happened to General Raubahn's arm? Sure you can just tell them, but then also try to remember the emotions you experienced while watching those final cut scenes. Could you feel his pain as your own? Emphasize with it? Those 100 MSQs were arduous, painful, drawn out, and TOTALLY worth it.

In hindsight. people who don't know about it won't care about it. and they won't miss it. They may have missed out on it, but it doesn't matter if they didn't care to begin with.

[Underdog2204]

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Tbh it doesn't matter. Anyone who buys a jump potion and doesn't bother to learn their class wouldn't learn though "progression" either. They just don't care either way. I've seen plenty of Ice Mages, BRD's refusing to use WM, BLM's using the lvl 50 rotation etc to even be concerned about it anymore. Even knew someone in my previous FC proud of the fact he only used a lvl 50 rotation on his BLM.

People can't be forced to do these things if they have zero interest in the first place.

[Gemina]

Better idea: a challenge for the naysayers that are opposed to jump potions.

Make an alt, level just one job to 60, do the MSQ up to the current end, AND WATCH EVERY SINGLE CUTSCENE AS THEY COME UP RATHER THAN AT THE INN.

If you do it, then CONGRATULATIONS! You will be living proof that jump potions might not be all that necessary, but it you so much as look at your main, you have to delete it. Now go! Go! Go!

I fail to understand how this proves anything. Not everyone desires an alt, and I believe many who are against JPs just don't want brand-spanking new subscribers to have access to them, and are ok with alts using them.

[Gemina]

I felt nothing as it is a videogame with about as much of an impact on me as a cartoon has. I'm not saying it was bad, it is a great story, but not everyone is "moved" by things like this. My real life is to hairy for me to be moved by things that aren't real.

Saying not everyone is moved by the scenes in the game works as much against your argument as for it. If you and others see it as nothing more than a cartoon, that is fine. That has no bearing on the fact that it is a story, and many people are moved by them in one format or another. That is why they exist.

[Underdog2204]

Saying not everyone is moved by the scenes in the game works as much against your argument as for it. If you and others see it as nothing more than a cartoon, that is fine. That has no bearing on the fact that it is a story, and many people are moved by them in one format or another. That is why they exist.

But people should be forced to go though it anyway coz you do care? How does that work?

Ok I've come across plenty of sprouts and barely any of them has watched cutscences simply because they want to catch-up to everyone else... Many of which I suspect will give up bothering before they even touch Heavensward.

That's totally healthy for the game right?

[Dreggit]

So then you would not argue that someone who does not understand their jobs mechanics who run high level content being potentially frustrating to play with. Of course you can't force anyone to play any particular way and everyone is going to do what they feel like but as is always the case in group content teamwork is key and a clear of high content is a team effort equally on everyone's part.

[Underdog2204]

So then you would not argue that someone who does not understand their jobs mechanics who run high level content being potentially frustrating to play with. Of course you can't force anyone to play any particular way and everyone is going to do what they feel like but as is always the case in group content teamwork is key and a clear of high content is a team effort equally on everyone's part.

Not really since it's so common.

It's just one of those things that you have to accept I'm afraid.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So then you would not argue that someone who does not understand their jobs mechanics who run high level content being potentially frustrating to play with. Of course you can't force anyone to play any particular way and everyone is going to do what they feel like but as is always the case in group content teamwork is key and a clear of high content is a team effort equally on everyone's part.

It won't put them in high level content, it will put them in leveling content

[Callinon]

So then you would not argue that someone who does not understand their jobs mechanics who run high level content being potentially frustrating to play with. Of course you can't force anyone to play any particular way and everyone is going to do what they feel like but as is always the case in group content teamwork is key and a clear of high content is a team effort equally on everyone's part.

Sure but that happens now, so clearly jump potions are not responsible for this behavior.

Players exist at all levels of skill and competence. Some people can go through (for instance) PotD from 1 - 60 on a job they've never touched and figure it out just fine as they level at a frankly breakneck pace. Some people will never get it no matter how long they have to learn. The fact that group B exists shouldn't affect decisions because nothing will cause them not to exist.