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    Widargelt in 4.0 MSQ?

    So we are closing in on 4.0 each day and one thing still lingers in my mind.

    Will Widargelt play a role in 4.0 Main Scenario?

    Back in 2.0 Job Quest he did have us make a oath that one the time comes to liberate Ala Mhigo we will be there to fight with him, assuming the Player completed the Monk Job Story for 2.0.

    It would also be interesting to see what dialogue are changed, despite being small amounts, and if possible sneak in a small "extended" cutscene or two based on if the Player's WoL completed 3.0 Monk Job Storyline or not since the difference in Widargelt's power before he complete 3.0 and after 3.0 is much larger due to events in 3.0 Monk Job storyline.
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    Given Eistinien was part of HW's story regardless of ones completion of the DRG storyline at that point it wouldn't surprise me...though they are running out of time to have him be re-introduced prior to 4.0. Though given we have barley seen anything of the 3.5 part 2 MSQ maybe he will come in there.
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    The devs have confirmed that he will, and hints in the lorebook give us some background as to the role that he will play.
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    I'm certainly looking forward to seeing him play a role in the MSQ, much like Estinien before him.

    Though I found the 3.0 Job Quests for DRG to be quite lack-luster for his absence, and I can only imagine that the MNK Job Quests in 4.0 will similarly suffer for Widargelt's. Though perhaps the Miqo'te Duo you train with in 3.0 could pick up the slack... though honestly I'd like to see them in the MSQ too.
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    I would imagine so given who he is and what he said in the monk quests.
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    I thought Yoshi P said he wouldn't and would mainly stick to the MNK story quests. I believe that question was asked at the LA fanfest but I am not sure if it was in the Q&A or in an interview.
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    He is the last known Fist of Rhalgr Monk and Ala Mhigan royalty. He also has his own Resistance members.

    I would think he'll play a role. The "prince uniting his people to liberate occupied nation" trope would have been a possibility, but with the Lady in Red and the Griffon being the focus, I don't see that happening anymore.

    With the way Widargelt speaks, I just can't see him as a political figure. I don't think we wants to rule, but will support the WoL to liberate Ala Mhigo and reestablish the Monks. In the end, I don't think he'll play as big of a role as Estinien did in Heavensward and I prefer it that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    What if the Griffin kills him to make sure there is no alternative to his resistance?
    I think the Griffin will have Widargelt assassinated, but the WoL and crew gets wind (a quest giver) of it and prevents it. That's how we'll learn of his heritage.
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    What if the Griffin kills him to make sure there is no alternative to his resistance?
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    I get the impression that the resistance is a patchwork of groups in the first place. The Griffin has been trying to unify them a lot, even including the Corpse Brigade, but I still think there are quite a few pre existing elements within the resistance.

    If the Griffin does turn out to be Ilberd I think his involvement in Wilred's death will poison opinion of him among many in Little Ala Mhigo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Griffin will have Widargelt assassinated, but the WoL and crew gets wind (a quest giver) of it and prevents it. That's how we'll learn of his heritage.
    That could also happen. But I am pretty sure he will try.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    I get the impression that the resistance is a patchwork of groups in the first place. The Griffin has been trying to unify them a lot, even including the Corpse Brigade, but I still think there are quite a few pre existing elements within the resistance.

    If the Griffin does turn out to be Ilberd I think his involvement in Wilred's death will poison opinion of him among many in Little Ala Mhigo.
    Well IF the Griffin turns out to be Ilberd. And if we can prove his involvement in Wilred's death.
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