Thread: Widargelt in 4.0 MSQ?

Honestly, unless the Griffin is entirely new character, I think its extremely likely its Ilberd. Ilberd is an experienced leader with the right mix of desperation and short sightedness that when combined with the support of Ascians fits the bill.

As for proof, the guys of Little Ala Mhigo know about Wilred's death and all current evidence seems to point to his death being due to finding out something about the corruption in the Crystal Braves before they turned on us. With Ilberd literally being in charge of that rebellion it puts him as a major suspect which frankly might be enough to erode trust. The Griffin is allied with the Corpse Brigade which already has quite a few older Ala Mhigian's disapproving. Even ignoring their involvement in with the King of Ruin, their actions since have been terrible. One of the NPCs when you first visit Little Ala Mhigo makes comments that suggest she was captured and raped by members of the Corpse Brigade recently.

The thing that seems to match both the Griffin and Ilberd is both are so desperate and so focused on actually retaking Ala Mhigo they aren't thinking of the consequences.

Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji

Yeah, he said that, I recall the interview as well (it was indeed an interview, not Q&A). I also recall being seriously weirded out by that answer, because c'mon - Widargelt is so heavily tied to Ala Mhigo and its immediate pre-Imperial past that not including him in a story about its liberation would seem like a massive over-sight, especially since the recently-released lore book goes out of its way to further solidify and clarify that connection. I wondering of Yoshida wasn't just being coy.

I was surprised too but I am guessing they just want to avoid a 'return of the king' scenario. That and not wanting to bloat the roster too much. To be honest, the old monarchy was so hated there is a good chance a lot of Ala Mhigans would be unwilling to follow Widargelt if they new the truth. I suppose it depends on how the MNK story plays out in Stormblood. At the very least I hope we see him and the other new Fists of Rhalgr make a cameo at least in the spirit of Y'mhitra or the Senna siblings.

Originally Posted by Belhi

'return of the king' scenario.

I agree that it is highly doubtful for Widargelt to have such a event in 4.0 but still it would be a waste for him not to take part in 4.0 MSQ even for a small moment such as a cameo scene on the battlefield fighting to liberate Ala Mhigo or appearing infront of the WoL, and maybe with the two sisters based on if players complete 3.0 MNK Job story or not, for a small moment to give the WoL time to complete his or her mission.

As of now it seems Widargelt only interests is to free Ala Mhigo and rebuild the Monk Order. He is most likely going to let Ala Mhigo change into a new system, most likely one where he is not needed, consider how bad the old system was and for the developers means, and lore reason, to keep Widargelt as a continue character in the Monk Job Storyline instead of removing him like they did with Estinien for Dragoon Job Storyline.

They can still reintroduce Widargelt into the MSQ, Estinien didn't come back until 2.5 too.

I think Widargelt's focus will be on rebuilding the Fists of Rhalgr. I very much suspect that the MNK job stories will be focused on that, perhaps trying to reclaim one of the old temples. I am actually very curious if Eric will turn up because he sounds like a character that is much more likely to exist in the middleground between holding Ala Mhigan heritage and embracing the beneficial aspects of what the Garleans brought. After all Eric is from Ala Mhigo and his family lives there if I remember right. Its sounds like he is part of the educated tier of current Ala Mhigan society. I don't think he is necessarily a diehard Garlean supporter but I can see him being more unbias in his assessment than many of the players who are likely to be involved even if he is a complete condescending jackass.

I agree that Widargelt of today probably wouldn't see eye to eye with Ilberd. The lesson he learned from Eric is that creating does more to secure the future than destroying. That is why Widargelt switched his focus from reclaiming Ala Mhigo at all costs to rebuilding the Fists of Rhalgr.

No spoilers please, but would someone mind saying if Widargelt does show up in 3.5? I'd like to know so I can decide if I want to finish leveling mnk before doing the MSQ.