Why hasn't WAR been switched to blunt?

[Chronons]

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Ty for the kind response.

My rebuttal is in response to your point about war/battle axes. While there are some examples in history of fast light axes being used for slashing ( small Persian horse axes for example) the majority shows that this is not the norm. Lets take the Vikings for instance, they are about the most prolific ax wielders one could conjure to mind. They used smaller hand axes in conjunction with shields and to a lesser extent large Dane axes in combat. The armor of the Vikings consisted mainly of hardened leather, mail, and in some cases lamellar. All three of the armors are surprisingly effective against slashing attacks - they wouldnt have wasted their time using them if they werent. The Viking sword is a straight rigid blade, ideal for piercing weak points in armor, and was often used this way attacking at the joints with thrusts. An ax on the other hand is a horrible thrusting weapon, so why then was it still so commonly used? Because of its ability to perform blunt force trauma. If I were to wear full chain mail, stretch out my arm, and have you attack it will both a Viking Sword and a Viking hand ax - The strike from the sword would sting quite a bit, no doubt leaving a serious bruise, however the blow from the ax is very likely to break my arm altogether. That damage was inflicted with no cutting, slicing, or severing.

Against an unarmored opponent an ax of any design war/felling is more likely to get stuck in a target than slash across it. A sword with a 30' blade is much less likely to stick than an ax with a 8' cutting surface.

The question in the OP is about what kind of mechanical changes switching to blunt might provide, I never meant to incite a discussion about what kind of damage weapons inflict irl. That being said, it is not as cut and dry (pun intended) as surface logic would suggest. Yes an ax can be used to slash, there are even some examples designed specifically for that. However, as I have said from the very first statement on this, that was never the main purpose of the ax. I am not suggesting that it is illogical for it to be in the slashing category of damage, only that it is also not illogical to put it in the blunt one.

[Hammerhorn]

teams are Pld War Mnk or Drk War Nin , the monk and the Drk bring the int debuff and is a good reason not to pair them imo so giving PLD blunt debuff would further compliment the Pld monk coehesion.

[Vergil_Crosse]

A sword with a 30' blade is much less likely to stick than an ax with a 8' cutting surface.

I see this mistake a lot. I think you meant 30" blade and 8" cutting surface. Not feet

[gumas]

maybe because SE has been thinking next tank class will wield hammer weapon?

i joke

[programcanaan]

maybe because SE has been thinking next tank class will wield hammer weapon?

i joke

I mean



maybe

edit: kinda what I would want most for a tank next. considering that the Legion members have been used for some classes already.

[Chronons]

I see this mistake a lot. I think you meant 30" blade and 8" cutting surface. Not feet

Lol yes thank you.

[Steelbreeze]

Ty for the kind response.While there are some examples in history of fast light axes being used for slashing ( small Persian horse axes for example).

That more or less depends on your definition of slashing. I'd say that a vast majority (ie all) of actions axes were designed for involve cutting in some way. Axes serve two purposes, cutting (for example woodmen's axes) and wedging. Both purposes involve separating two parts through an edge and force. Now "slashing" may be referring to the act of not swinging an edge but in drawing it across the target (as with a curved blade). Given the dynamics of how DRK movements are, I can say in FFXIV "slashing" is probably "swinging an edge" which plainly includes WAR axes.

The better question is not why hasn't war been switched to blunt but rather why would they. Logically and aesthetically it would require a complete redesign of many in-game items, graphics rework, animation rework, quest rework, etc. All of which takes dev time away from much more important things. It would be far easier for MNK to just provide their own blunt damage debuff, since they are the only physical class with that damage type.

[HaelseMikiro]

I can agree to the argument of the ax bevel and head weight being used for digging in working in the real world. But that's entirely an issue with the wielder. Humans do not have the arm strength to cut through an entire tree or an armored opponent in one swing. FFXIV Warrior swinging animations do not stop halfway, or hit the target and then back out. The attack continues all the way through the target, implying that it is slashing through them. Slashing damage makes perfect sense for the game.

[xabyssopelagicx]

That would be clutch, I love the paladin and monk and for some reason everyone has to follow the meta made by 4% of the community

[Tsilyi]

Personally I think it could be interesting if warrior provided but did not benefit from slashing debuff, as in their attacks through sheer force weakened the enemy's defenses wrt attacks from slashing weapons. this could occur through basically "weakening the armor" of the opponent or whatnot. I apologize if this idea has already been put forth.