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  1. #21
    Player
    Bonkleberry's Avatar
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    Oct 2016
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Justin Satanas
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I do not even bother with Protect until my level 30 cross class slot. I'd rather have it on 40, actually, but this guy in my FC gets annoyed by that, so I try to remain cooperative for community's sake and meet his expectations half-way.

    That said, a tank death is partially the tank's fault too. A tank's primary job is to initiate fights, position the foes, and stay alive as long as possible. If a tank's HP goes from full to dead within the 7.5 second window of Cleric Stance's cooldown and the cast time of one healing spell, that is a huge tank fail, not the healer's. Even if you were healing them instead of using Cleric Stance, you realistically could not have healed through the damage anyway without a ton of cooldowns or instant cast heals, which you do not have at low levels anyway.
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    You cannot take anything for granted, change eventually swallows everything you may try to immortalize.

  2. #22
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Character
    Phoenix Silver
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    CS>>>>>protect at those early levels.
    On ast even more so than the other healers. ED is a basically a 1min benediction, available for every trash pack, even without dropping CS

    protect actually does nothing at all, you will still need to cast as many heals. Instead of the mobs hitting for 50hp, they might instead hit for 47hp if the tank has protect (numbers out the air). you're not suddenly going to have to not cast a cure because that 3hp made a difference

    healer is ridic op at early levels
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  3. #23
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Character
    Culfinrandir Caladel
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    All non CNJ/WHM healers should have Cleric Stance cross classed as their first. I personally then have Protect, Stoneskin, Swiftcast then Aero. They're the order I found them most useful for both solo & instanced content without needing to swap. Many argue that Blizzard2 is needed but as a SCH I have a lot of AoE ability & like the sheer smack Aero can give against solo monsters.
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  4. #24
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    Hen-Hen's Avatar
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    Character
    Henalie Aubrenard
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I keep cs as my first cross class slot, and when I roll sastasha as heals, there's usually a class there to cover with protect anyway. I've rolled it a lot and never had any actual "hate" for not casting it myself. There is usually that 15s lull where people wait for it though, that's usually funny, especially if they wait so long I have to go pull to show them protect ain't coming.
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  5. #25
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    Aramina's Avatar
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    Character
    Ahnohla Mujuuk
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I just keep CS in the first slot and mention to the group that I don't have protect cross-classed at that level. 9/10 times someone else does and if they don't, it's not a huge deal.
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  6. #26
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    ckc22's Avatar
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    Character
    Tetsu Taru
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    You should be dpsing.

    If the tank isn't terrible (like... wearing DoW gear and not using CDs like someone I had the other day) You shouldn't have to leave clerics except to throw like 1 heal a fight.

    I put clerics as my lvl 10 cc on ast/ch and protect at 20 - I don't even use it if i get the teens leveling dungeons. Rarely someone who doesn't know what they're talking about will complain about it - they're wrong.
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  7. #27
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Character
    Areku Foxfire
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Protect is useless in the early parts of the game. Stick with Cleric Stance.
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
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  8. #28
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Character
    Talya Stormbreaker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    What I do in Sastasha is protect, swap protect and cleric stance as the tank is running to the next pack, and if he gets low before I get Benefic off cooldown, hit him with essential dignity. Then I turn on cleric stance and dps for most of the dungeon bc Sastasha healing requirements are very low. You can even Benefic through CS and it's decent enough in a pinch.
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  9. #29
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    Rivxkobe's Avatar
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    Character
    Carmine Altair
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
    Incorrect.

    I posted earlier about this.

    CS increases the damage your spells do by, at least, 5. At most it doubles the damage of your spells. Again this is in Sastasha.

    Protect on the other hand has no discernable effect on the damage you recieve. Even as a tank. So it is, in essence, useless. Its not even worth the swap.
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  10. #30
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
    This is only true IF you are wearing low level gear, as that is general DoM gear that has both int and mnd. If you're a high level player synced down however, you likely get NO int on your gear whatsoever.
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