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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Protect is useless in the early parts of the game. Stick with Cleric Stance.
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
    Incorrect.

    I posted earlier about this.

    CS increases the damage your spells do by, at least, 5. At most it doubles the damage of your spells. Again this is in Sastasha.

    Protect on the other hand has no discernable effect on the damage you recieve. Even as a tank. So it is, in essence, useless. Its not even worth the swap.
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
    This is only true IF you are wearing low level gear, as that is general DoM gear that has both int and mnd. If you're a high level player synced down however, you likely get NO int on your gear whatsoever.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.
    RivxKobe already pointed you to their previous post but I'm going to include one little tidbit.

    If you increase your dps by even 1 with CS then you are getting more use out of it than you would Protect. And a 1 point increase to dps isn't entirely useless so I would have to disagree with you completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    RivxKobe already pointed you to their previous post but I'm going to include one little tidbit.

    If you increase your dps by even 1 with CS then you are getting more use out of it than you would Protect. And a 1 point increase to dps isn't entirely useless so I would have to disagree with you completely.
    What I read from Foxy's comment was that getting through the duty is such a non-issue that the choice of Cross-Class slot isn't very important no matter how you spin it.

    Personally I go for CS because a 10% damage boost is better than nothing even if we're talking about lowbies with comparable base INT and MND. If the party wants to bitch, they can have at it. Most players by now seem to recognize that Protect in low-level content is basically irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    snipperoo.
    True enough. Clearing the duty is braindead af, but it's rather ignorant to claim CS and Protect are on the same level at lv. 15. Protect is literally useless. There is no change to the damage you received when you apply it. CS at least does something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    What I read from Foxy's comment was that getting through the duty is such a non-issue that the choice of Cross-Class slot isn't very important no matter how you spin it.
    Maybe.

    But CS isn't "useless", as he claimed. While it isn't important, placing Protect as your first CC has no real merit or practical use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    This is only true IF you are wearing low level gear, as that is general DoM gear that has both int and mnd. If you're a high level player synced down however, you likely get NO int on your gear whatsoever.
    Not even then is it true.

    You would still gain the slight bonus from naturally higher mind and the 10% increase. It, in no way, never doesn't increase the damage you do. Meaning it is not useless as he so claimed. Important? Not really. But there is literally no reason to take protect over CS.
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    Last edited by Rivxkobe; 01-12-2017 at 10:23 AM.