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  1. #201
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarta View Post
    Isn't Ifrit female too in FFXIV?
    Ifrit is male in FFXIV. And FFXV is you meant that instead.
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  2. #202
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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Leyna Crosse
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    @OP, would you prefer half-naked men?

    ... and weren't you half naked running around in that youtube video of yours :P
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  3. #203
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    Raiker's Avatar
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    Dagger Amethyst
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    It would be hilarious to have a male boss with "exaggerated" proportions. I picture all the lala's staring up underneath a loin cloth stating in the shout channel, "I .... I think I found the weak point."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjspencer4 View Post
    You go to a cake shop owned by SE.
    SE says "the cake isn't ready yet, all we have now is a plastic display model."
    You don't listen, eat the plastic display model anyway, and get sick.
    "SE gave me food poisoning, spread the word."

  4. #204
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Just because something is half-human doesn't mean it needs to have a human chest. It could have a human bottom half. Just because something has human female in it doesn't mean it needs to have breasts. It could be an eel but a female face on it. That's a female monster. Or a female that is simply small-chested? Could have long hair. Heck to be honest, to be female, it doesn't HAVE to look female you know. Leviathan in FFXV is female with a female voice for example. As long as the Devs say, " This is a female", it's a female

    The point is, female =/= has breasts etc, especially in a fantasy game.

    Heck they can take Ferdiad and slap "Girl" on the lore tag. There you go! Does he look like a female human thing? No. But still female.

    You can get Scylla and slap "Boy" on the lore tag. And you're like "He totally has boobs" but the key is that that's imagination.
    Heh... You are right, that is something that someone could decide to do. But the thing is, that is not something that NEEDS to be done. You are right that a monster can have an animal body and a human face, but heres the thing, it can also have a full human torso - a fact that does not make it sexual. Your entire argument hinges on there being offence in designing creatures this way and I am simply reminding you that there is no offence, and that the artists made a choice to create the creature this way anatomically, and that it is neither sexy nor offensive to have a creature designed this way. If anything, it enhances the horror by creating an uncanny valley of something which is percieved as beautiful being twisted into a grotesque form (which can be a powerful artistic technique).

    I don't understand your argument with genderswapping at all, so I will leave that well alone. As someone who attends a life drawing class, the male/female form are very real things and you are trying to tell me that males/females cannot be identified by silhouettes and curve patterns, which is simply not true (I know thats not what you are saying, but what you are essentially saying is "lets just change all the genders with no thought and it will make sense because I said so", it doesn't work like that).

    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
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    Yeah, I didn't play much XI and my knowledge of XI garuda is showing. I'll go back and edit the original post to clarify that XIV garuda is based on XI garuda
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 01-11-2017 at 02:04 PM.

  5. #205
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    CatStarPrime's Avatar
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    Nova Wildstar
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    Nael Deus Darnus.

    Nothing special about hir but I haven't seen that particular Boss crop up in the list of Mentionables yet.
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  6. #206
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    @OP, would you prefer half-naked men?

    ... and weren't you half naked running around in that youtube video of yours :P
    That's exactly what they're asking for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roukiz View Post
    Yet I must ask, is it really such a difficulty, or near impossibility for Hydaelyn to harbor
    (more) bosses that are perhaps male eye-candy?
    Let's see some Pillar Men in FFXIV! Jojo's Bizarre Adventure for the uninformed

    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarPrime View Post
    Nael Deus Darnus.

    Nothing special about hir but I haven't seen that particular Boss crop up in the list of Mentionables yet.
    Change hir to her. While Nael van Darnus was a man, the person we fought was not him (the lore book goes into more detail) and has always been a woman.

    The person we fought was in fact Eula Darnus, Nael van Darnus' sister
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    Last edited by Nestama; 01-11-2017 at 02:36 PM.

  7. #207
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjohn View Post
    Realistically, its 2017.
    The 2010's is the decade of SJW's and making big deals out of non issues.
    Hopefully it'll pass... thought it would have ended in 2015 or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Jojo's Bizarre Adventure for the uninformed
    is this a jojo reference?
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    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    While Nael van Darnus was a man, the person we fought was not him (the lore book goes into more detail) and has always been a woman.
    What/which lore book? I've been away a bit but I can't recall an in-game lore book...
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  9. #209
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    It's in the official lore book you buy from the SE store (or eBay if you live in Australia).

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    is this a jojo reference?
    Maaaaybe.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 01-11-2017 at 02:57 PM.

  10. #210
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Change hir to her. While Nael van Darnus was a man, the person we fought was not him (the lore book goes into more detail) and has always been a woman.
    The person we fought was in fact Eula Darnus, Nael van Darnus' sister
    Actually thats just a change in the english version.

    Naels gender was never stated in the japanese version, and since we lack gender neutral terms, and it was never made clear naels gender was to be questioned, the english localization team just assumed it was a man, and labeled nael as a "him".

    Once they realized the error with ARR, they changed the story, with the intent of a clone.

    Then later changed it again for the lore book, to say it was his sister.

    Now its possible for them to go with the sister idea, and make it work for all future storylines, much better than the clone idea.
    but its just a mistake, with a quick fix, trying to cover up the change.
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