Going agaisnt the grain , but I hope its ok

[bswpayton]

having 3 sets of gear for different glamour themes - say: i260 scripture, i250 creator normal, i250 crafted for your roles that share the same

I have 4 retainers, and I will do trails and alexander but really with savage i kinda see myself doing it to just clear once so i can see what its all about and not really spaming it constantly for a ten point difference in item level. But my question is if people are just starting Alexander then what else would they be wearing other than scripture gear.

[Astyrah]

my question is if people are just starting Alexander then what else would they be wearing other than scripture gear.

they can wear the i250 crafted gear it's enough to get you thru all current (as of 3.4) content and up to a10s without much optimizing/minmaxing

you can have a crafter friend craft it for you, craft it yourself, or earn some gil and buy them

eventually we will also have the last 24man raid that would likely award i260 stuff so there's that too!

[Dement]

While I don't see anything wrong with your plan for lower tier content, if you do Savage or Extremes then make sure you put on your best gear regardless of what job you are. So if you typically run around with your shire gear on PLD and crafted gear on WAR/DRK but decide you want to do Extreme Zurvan on WAR/DRK - equip your Shire gear on it before you go in. Those types of content you need to be prepared to play to your absolute best.

Normal modes you can get away with pretty much whatever you want as long as you meet the ilvl requirement.

[Eul]

Ironworks in The Vault? If you can actually maintain hate as a tank, it's all good. If aggro is bouncing all over the place and we wipe a couple times. I vote kick you.

I always hate meeting tank at Vault who still using ironwork gear, especially ironwork gear on left side. It's just make those tank squishy and healer "might" need heals hard (or don't have DPS time) because squishy tank. Just IMO.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Don't listen to the don't gimp yourself argument. As long as you are meeting the item level reqs it's fine. You could sync yourself to the lowest ilevel if you wanted anyway so it doesn't even matter.

[Underdog2204]

Don't listen to the don't gimp yourself argument. As long as you are meeting the item level reqs it's fine. You could sync yourself to the lowest ilevel if you wanted anyway so it doesn't even matter.

It's not really fine, I got a healer in Great Gubal Hard yesterday who had full 230 left and right slots but a 145 weapon... The run was far from fine.

[Neophyte]

Well, what you actually can do is: With weekly scrib gear upgrade you can buy the 260 pieces again and then give 2 roles a mix of 270/260. That is, if you have the scribs...
On the other side, with job-based gear it would be expensive to gear many jobs, too.

But if you also got some Alex pieces or a well melded crafted gear it's enough for 3 jobs. And alex normal will be uncapped next week, too.

[Jetstream_Fox]

I always hate meeting tank at Vault who still using ironwork gear, especially ironwork gear on left side. It's just make those tank squishy and healer "might" need heals hard (or don't have DPS time) because squishy tank. Just IMO.

Depending on what ironworks we are talking about the augmented or normal. Because, if we look at just VIT alone between augmented and normal, a full augmented ironworks gives a total of 451 VIT vs 394 nonaugmented. The only other options available at the first time you run the Vault are Orthodox and the 56 Titanium set, which the Orthodox gives a total of 457 VIT, the 56 Titanium HQ gives 464, and NQ gives 414. So ya, nonaugmented ironworks might be pushing it, but augmented puts you right in the middle of the available gear sets. But no matter what the set that is available, the Vault is going to wreck everyone because the damage scale is much higher than any previous dungeon, kind of like how Brayflox was harder then any dungeon before hand as well.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

It's not really fine, I got a healer in Great Gubal Hard yesterday who had full 230 left and right slots but a 145 weapon... The run was far from fine.

That's not a gear problem. That's a skill problem.

[LineageRazor]

The fact that jobs that wear the same gear can't have different glamour without gimping their stats is a problem that the devs are aware of. They occasionally talk about how they'd like to change it, but doing so would require a pretty significant overhaul of the glamour system. If, as many people facetiously claim, "glamour is the true endgame", it's likely that this is a problem the devs are seriously thinking about, and we may actually get that complete overhaul someday.

For now, though, yeah, you either have to put up with looking the same on all of your healer/tank/mage jobs, or swap in sub-standard gear when you think you can get away with it for the sake of your alternate look.