Another Platform primal in 3.5, is this how all of them will be in the future jc?

[Dzian]

i'd prefer they have more arenas like Binding Coil Turn 1.

That would be awesome.

Or maybe something like diabolos in XI where chunks of the floor fall away throughout the fight.

or arenas that have a more 3dimensional affect. like hide behind objects to avoid a. massive gust or be on top of them to avoid a huge tidal wave. maybe under them to avoid a meteorstorm.

another irk I have is that jumping never works. even if you jump over the poison puddles in av and never step in them you still take the debuff...

Also, how does an arena being the same or a similar concept mean THE ENTIRE fight, that we haven't seen fully either, is just a matter of repeating patterns? Also, how do you get true random in an MMO fight/trial/raid? You can't, there has to be some degree of autonomy but not outright random acts here and there. That would just be atrocious and only a niche group would like that, let alone do it.

Most of the old school mmos did had this. fights were a lot more random and a lot less scripted. Using its predecessor XI as an example. you had proto omega. that might use a citadel buster on a tank once in the entire fight. or 3 times in the same minute. or he might put up manashields almost back to back crippling your groups magic damage, or he might never use them giving your mages free reign.

or boss ultimates for example. you could fight suzaku in sky and find he pops his chainspell literally straight away. the next fight he might not use it till hes at 10% hp... or a byakko that might pop perfect dodge at 90% hp just when all your dps have popped there damage buffs... it took a lot more skill and adaption than just memorize a dance and win.

it even existed to a degree in xiv 1.2 with ifrit. the pattern of plumes eruption and incinerates was a lot more random. the only constraint was you never saw the same one twice in a row. in arr you know which one is coming next and exactly where the plumes will be.

[ckc22]

running them unsync is not what i really consider running them, people farm them for ponies are wanders tails etc but nobody is doing them sync anymore the samething will happen to all of the hw primals when the next expansion comes out. And I think all this does is leave a gap for players late to the game they want see any challenging content until storm blood because everything before it will be irrelevant. But thats a totally different story tho

I mean... its like 2+ year old content... Who cares if anyone's doing them synced? There's current challenging content to do.

[Azper]

I don't mind the platform bosses if they take their cue from Sophia and put people's bodies back up top somehow so there's at least a chance of salvaging a run gone wrong.

[bswpayton]

I mean... its like 2+ year old content... Who cares if anyone's doing them synced? There's current challenging content to do.

I was just answering a question someone else asked , I wasnt sayin that people should be forced to do this content I was just sayin that unsync doesnt count as a real clear, if you come to the game late its harder to get a real clear of old content because people dont do it

[ckc22]

I was just answering a question someone else asked , I wasnt sayin that people should be forced to do this content I was just sayin that unsync doesnt count as a real clear, if you come to the game late its harder to get a real clear of old content because people dont do it

If they didn't offer unsynced clears you wouldn't even get a "fake clear" cause you would literally have no one doing it.

[LadyKairi]

I dont understand the issue with primals that you fight on a platform. Especially with Sophia and the ones after her. Now that they made it so if you fall of you can get rezzed, it's just like any other ground level fight.

Say you are a solo tank in Ramuh (ex). You lose your debuff so you don't get smited, and as you are gathering orbs to put back up, Ramuh smited you and you die. You can still get rezzed and jump back into the fight.

Say you're in Sophia. You miscount her scale mechanic and fall off to your demise. You can get rezzed and jump back into the fight.

They are both the same now. It's just another form of an instant kill mechanic if you don't do it properly. As far as I'm aware, they're going to do more of these, where falling isn't a perma-death.

[bswpayton]

If they didn't offer unsynced clears you wouldn't even get a "fake clear" cause you would literally have no one doing it.

I did the fake clear but I personally go back and do them sync cause im not about a fake clear its not real and it turned hard content into a cake walk and I dont feel accomplished is all im saying

[ckc22]

I did the fake clear but I personally go back and do them sync cause im not about a fake clear its not real and it turned hard content into a cake walk and I dont feel accomplished is all im saying

If you did it without syncing to minimum ilvl you didn't get a real clear.... #goalposts

[SaitoHikari]

I'm going to laugh if the devs read this thread and the answer they come up with is to make a series of trials that are similar to Steps of Faith in structure.

[Neophyte]

I want more divebombs again. D:

A whole expansion about dragons and no single trial/raid with those. Come on Niddhog... even Twintania could target a player before charging through the arena.