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  1. #11
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind a Time Mage. Yes, AST incorporates elements of Time Mage, but at the same time, I think a Time Mage could work by itself as well. A DPS oriented class rather than a healing class. Not unlike how SMN is a DPS version of SCH. I also don't care much for Astrologian and its Fortune Telling gimmicks, so a Time Mage would just suit my personal tastes better.

    But I don't think we're getting Time Mage in 4.0. Maybe 5.0.
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  2. #12
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Here is my crack theory, not about what the 2nd job will be but the number of jobs we will get in 4.0 (take this with a grain of salt):
    Red Mage will not be one of the two Stormblood jobs we get for 4.0, it will be added to ARR when 4.0 launches.

    Think about it:
    -Its been confirmed that you can unlock it in a ARR area (which area has not been specified yet).
    -It looks like nothing we've seen attached to Ala Mhigo. When deciding HW jobs, the devs originally though of adding Samurai as the tank but couldn't get it to fit in HW from a lore and visual standpoint. Why would they throw all those points away for the next expansion unless it wasn't going to be in the expansion.
    -Red Mage is the last of the original six classes from the original Final Fantasy to get added to this game. Warrior, Monk, White mage, and Black Mage have been here since before 2.0's launch, and Rogue and Ninja are Thief and were added in 2.4. It would make sense that they would want to add one of the original 6 FF classes as a job in ARR.
    -Only getting 2 jobs, with the second most likely being another DPS, would be really bad for queuing times, even if people don't want to switch to one of them as a main, people will still want to at least try them out. There's no way SE couldn't have foreseen this being a problem.
    -We had zero hints at Astrologian when it was revealed shown at the European FanFest after Machinist. We got a Batman shirt for Dark Knight and a 007 shirt for Machinist. So the idea of them not hinting at a third job is not a crazy stretch, just a normal stretch. :-D
    -SE's NA twitter account deleted a tweet revealing Red Mage as one of the two Stormblood jobs when it was first announced at the JP Fanfest. It was later replaced with a tweet saying it was just one of the new jobs being added to Stormblood.

    Again, this is crack theory and I don't even believe it, I just thought it was an interesting idea. >w>

    Also, I am totally in the Astrologian = Time Mage camp. >w>
    It already has Disable and Gravity, two spells that are generally in the Time Magic category.
    Arrow = Haste
    Stella = Slow
    Celestial Opposition= Stop
    Diurnal Aspected Benefic and Helios = Regen (in some games, it's under Time Magic)
    You can also use the orbit and rotation of celestial bodies and constellations to tell time.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 01-10-2017 at 05:12 AM.

  3. #13
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I recall at one point the idea of Time mage and haste was shot down because it would be over powered.
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  4. #14
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    Thornton Velstriker
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Scarlet Witch .... Scarlet = Red, Witch = Mage , Therefore Red Mage

    Same Logic

    Spiderman..... Spider = 8 legs, Man = 2 legs, Therefore 10-legs or Tin-legs or Metal-legs as in Automaton soooooo Puppetmaster confirmed!!!
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  5. #15
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    L'yuuyami Oschon
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    My farfetched theory:
    The shirt actually represents all three of the speculated jobs - Dancer, Blue Mage and Samurai - and we are getting not two jobs, but four jobs in 4.0 being: Red Mage, Blue Mage, Dancer, and Samurai.
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  6. #16
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I hate to say it (because I want samurai as much as anyone) but I have a hard time understanding how samurai would fit into ala migo lore? Doman, definitely.

    Trying to think of things in and around ala migo (from what little we know of it), I could see:
    - Blue mage
    - Beastmaster
    - Assassin
    - Ranger
    - Elementalist
    - Dancer
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  7. #17
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    Lollie Ondoreil
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Wrestler....
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  8. #18
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I hate to say it (because I want samurai as much as anyone) but I have a hard time understanding how samurai would fit into ala migo lore? Doman, definitely.

    Trying to think of things in and around ala migo (from what little we know of it), I could see:
    - Blue mage
    - Beastmaster
    - Assassin
    - Ranger
    - Elementalist
    - Dancer
    BLU/BST seem like jobs which could tie in to Ala Mhigo's lore.
    Assassin seems a little close to ROG/NIN.
    Ranger seems a little close to ACH/BRD.
    Elementalist could work as Geomancer, given the Ala Mhigans seem to have Shamans.
    Dancer feels like it would be a good compliment to MNK if it filled a Healer role.

    That said, not all classes in an expansion need necessarily fit to the theme of the area. Look at Astrologian and Heavensward. It's very clearly a Sharlayan Job, with Ishgard's Astrologians just being glorified stargazers. Machinist makes a lot of use of Magitech which makes it feel more like a Garlean Job than an Ishgard Job. Its very clearly Ishgard, of course, just saying its inspirations and much of the tool kit work off of the principles of Magitech.

    I have a hard time seeing Red Mage connected to Ala Mhigo at all. Strikes me as another Sharlayan job. But we also know the new Jobs will be available in 2.0 areas to prevent the issue of Job Lock-Out by MSQ that happened in 3.0. Seems probable we could have Samurai as an extension of Doman culture and lore included in Stormblood. We're liberating Ala Mhigo, and since the Domans want to make their home in Eorzea, they'll want to help. A war isn't the time to employ just stealth and subterfuge. A war requires front line fighters. Perfect time for the Domans to spread the ways of the Samurai to their allies.
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  9. #19
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    -We had zero hints at Astrologian when it was revealed shown at the European FanFest after Machinist. We got a Batman shirt for Dark Knight and a 007 shirt for Machinist. So the idea of them not hinting at a third job is not a crazy stretch, just a normal stretch. :-D
    .
    James Bond movie - Live or Let die had a tarot villain. My boyfriend kept saying the shirt was to hint at some type of tarot healer job. Lo and behold lol. This time he is saying Dancer.

    Also for the deleted tweet - Yoshida hinted two times at 3 jobs:

    At JP fan fest Naoki Yoshida's room 3 jobs was hinted at) and in the 2016 Moonfaire festival then, he said the # of jobs in 4.0 is related to the moonfaire event, where there is 3 main NPC's in the artwork and in the quest. Then there was that one time in Aug 2012 when someone stumbled upon the Summoner place holder web site on the 2.0 ARR relaunch website. SE not only nuked every mention of that as fast as possible, they went beyond that and were deleted evidence of it outside of these forums. I think if that was really true about the two jobs they would be doing the same. Think its safe to say it was a miscommunication which happens quite often.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Druid, WoW style.

    Just as Peter became a spider, the WoL shall become a beast to vanquish the darkness, and defeat Zodiark.
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