As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Taika]

My thoughts on a solution maybe to disable cleric in the most recent content like until the next patch. Or disable the dps spells except the instant ones like virus and disable, and aero. This may not please people that want to clear current content fast, but Im not sure content needs to be cleared as fast as possible. Its a compromising solution though, and may help healers to regain some of their identity. This could also be viewed as a challenge for all, not all the pressure but on a healer to perform at optimal level

So just because you're unable or unwilling to perform well, you want to remove that chance from everyone else?

[Cleftobismal]

Let's not revive this thread please. Cleric Stance has already had its debate.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stances/page44

[Feyona]

Its not fallacy, in Savage, each and every member is expected to perform 100% of what the fight requires just to have half a chance of clearing it. When undergeared, this is even more apparent. As I said earlier, the healer is an extremely high impact role with an extremely high skill ceiling. Most statics succeed or break on their healer's skill. The expectation exists because the class is so capable, you cannot hardly blame the group for expecting more. However, I do admit they should've given you time to learn.

I thought I did see posts where it states content should be clearable. Without healer dps. Some posts here say dps when you are comfortabe with it. I think it a fallacy expecting every sch to be able to do it though. I even told the guy before I joined that I wasnt expert.

[randysquirrel]

Or disable the dps spells except the instant ones like virus and disable

asked to leave static you say?

[Feyona]

So just because you're unable or unwilling to perform well, you want to remove that chance from everyone else?

I am not unwilling just found it impossible to live up to the expectation. Im an average player that works hard at learning, I would like more time thats all in the role I can play reasonably well, to learn fights, extra feat can come afterwards. And no I dont want to take anything away from anyone, but I think my ability to play, may be taken away by such high expectation

[LadyKairi]

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No. Absolutely not. No.

My team and I have been trying for weeks. >>WEEKS!!!<< to beat a11s. So far we have gotten to 2.9% (wiping last minute...) and that's WITH me and our main healer DPSing, as well as tanks trying to maximize their damage. If your so called "solution" were entertained, it would take even longer for us because we wouldn't be able to push through as many phases as we are currently able to. Just because you can't stance dance properly and got hate as a result, doesn't mean the rest of us should get punished for it. Whether you like it or not, it helps A LOT. And I have ZERO identity issues as a healer.

Content shouldn't be blown through, sure. But being stuck on the same fight for well over a month (maybe 2) is EXTREMELY annoying when all you wanna do is progress. Makes you wanna blow your brains out, and it's very disheartening. Getting rid of healer dps would make that so much worse.

[Taika]

My team and I have been trying for weeks. >>WEEKS!!!<< to beat a11s. So far we have gotten to 2.9% (wiping last minute...) and that's WITH me and our main healer DPSing, as well as tanks trying to maximize their damage.

No but with her logic, it must be just that everyone else in your team - except for the healers, of course - just aren't trying hard enough. You should just expect more from your DDs and tanks and then you'll just fly through that last phase.... :P

Seriously though, good luck! Our group was stuck there for a long time too, so I know how you feel.

[Cleftobismal]

No. Absolutely not. No.

My team and I have been trying for weeks. >>WEEKS!!!<< to beat a11s. So far we have gotten to 2.9% (wiping last minute...) and that's WITH me and our main healer DPSing,

Content shouldn't be blown through, sure. But being stuck on the same fight for well over a month (maybe 2) is EXTREMELY annoying when all you wanna do is progress. Makes you wanna blow your brains out, and it's very disheartening. Getting rid of healer dps would make that so much worse.

Some don't get it that when a healer DPS, they can contribute more DPS than a LB3.

A LB3

Limit break 3 . .. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGm5BsitA5M



Even a solo healer can still contribute that much damage.

[LadyKairi]

Seriously though, good luck! Our group was stuck there for a long time too, so I know how you feel.

Thank you T_T it's frustrating, but the victory is going to be oh so sweet. Going to be trying again tonight, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we are finally gonna kill that gosh darned cruise chaser.

[Feyona]

Im not in a hard core static at the moment, we just started a11s. I already see how annoying. It is. That is part of the enjoyable challenge of the game, without challenge what would we do? But no I dont want anyone else to work harder than me but atm as wmg I am healing alot. My healing is taking up much of the time, dont think Im stopping . Some teams maybe require more healing than others I guess. I think we will probably clear it though and if Im askied. to do more dps will certainly try. Mana can also be a problem though especially when you need to rez people.