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  1. #2141
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    If you look at this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    This was what Dervy tested in game. If you look at the 3 second cast time, you have the first 4 break points at 361, 381, 401, 427. In your spreadsheet these are 361, 383, 405 and 427. While the large tiers are correct, every 132 points or every 2% decrease, a lot of the in between tiers are off.

    EDIT: Looking at ley lines for 2.5, the points you have where it drops is for the first 4, 361, 387, 414, 467. When I tested huton in game (same attack speed increase) these points were, 374, 401, 434, 467.
    I wish I'd seen this spread sheet earlier Now that you've pointed it out and I've rechecked more of the in-between points I see the discrepancies. I guess the only useful thing in my sheet is the major cutoffs every 132 ss.
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  2. #2142
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    Death Wraith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Go back to page 213. I've posted it there.
    I've tried to pull off that rotation but always end up losing Astral Fire and subsequently Enochian if I do not get Firestarter. I am currently at 1151 SS with food. Any tips or is there a video I could watch?
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  3. #2143
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    Promestein Knowledge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathwraith View Post
    I've tried to pull off that rotation but always end up losing Astral Fire and subsequently Enochian if I do not get Firestarter. I am currently at 1151 SS with food. Any tips or is there a video I could watch?
    Switch third Fire IV and Fire.
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  4. #2144
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    The following page holds the link as well as a discussion about it: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest.../blog/3165231/

    I also use this tool to gage how valuable crit is: https://josephwebber.ca/samples/FFXIV_Crit_Calculator/ . I, of course, take credit for neither. They are simply tools I have come across. Hope that helps.
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  5. #2145
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    Whoops. First link is for spell speed
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  6. #2146
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Hey fellow BLMs, this is probably the last post I'll make saying I've updated the guide on page 1. I seriously can't believe this thread is still going and on page 216. It's probably redundant since some people like Alayna Lazriel of Hyperion made a pretty big Google Doc BLM guide (I wouldn't have been the guy that would have made that :P) but I felt I would have left an unfinished work.

    I think many confused and new BLM players will appreciate the flow chart I made when it comes to a basic rotation. I've updated the openers although this subject is highly arguable I've decided to name 2 openers that I've compared. The Sharpcast F1 and a Blizzard 3 Opener. I think overall people prefer Sharpcast F1 and it is more stable imho. It requires no setup and it's pretty fast to deploy compared to Blizzard 3 that has a slow setup but provides a smarter use of Raging Strikes (which we'll lose in 4.0 btw since we're be in the caster sharing CDs group)

    BLM is fun, will always be fun. I will level it up in 4.0 After Red Mage :P Red Mage is all I always wanted. It looks like a mobile Caster and mobility is kinda what drove me away from BLM. I don't have issues to dodge and avoid mechanics but I feel BLM is pretty dull.

    I also think Omega will provide a fresh and superior raiding experience as Omega is actually part of the story and not a stupid filler like Alexander with a dull storyline. I'm sorry, I really didn't like Alexander. It might as well have never existed and clearly SE didn't put much effort in Heavensward than A Realm Reborn. Maybe I'm being too severe, I know there's a lot of players who enjoyed Heavensward but I think it's fair to assume those players were new people who didn't get a chance to compare both eras.

    Anyways... I've been having a blast as a Derpgoon. Will have more fun as a Red Mage, I won't be making any thread for 4.0 Somebody else will have to do it. I will work around Red Mage. This is definitely the first job I'm hitting 70 with. Probably gonna get shafted with the whole jobs being unbalanced on release but as far as I noticed. Square Enix does a decent job to put a good balance in their jobs (except Astrologian. They went from useless to God-tier :< )

    I also haven't decide if I'll work myself to raid seriously again. I have no group and I can really only raid from 6PM to 9PM EST from Monday to Friday. Faerie isn't exactly what you can call a good place to find a good raid group also so I'll have to think if I want to transfer.

    If you have questions or you actually know a group that needs a DPS and raids from 6PM to 9PM, you can PM me on reddit: PM Aikaal
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  7. #2147
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    Lathia Lakshmi
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    Forgive me if I'm wrong but that "BiS" is ~3 points lower than this one. If you feel the SS is a bit low, you can use pentamelded Teak Choker (Det Vs) and still be higher than assumed BiS. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WVNL
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    Last edited by Lathia; 01-09-2017 at 11:13 PM.

  8. #2148
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    Professor Moon
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 70
    What's the lowest amount of spell speed you can get away with as a blm and still be okay? Sitting around 900 but I have to play smn for my raid group and so I'm getting a lot of Alex gear which has no spell speed. I plan to meld it with G5 SS materia but I'm sure I'll be taking a drop in ss.
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    Yeowood Chatelfort
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathwraith View Post
    I've tried to pull off that rotation but always end up losing Astral Fire and subsequently Enochian if I do not get Firestarter. I am currently at 1151 SS with food. Any tips or is there a video I could watch?
    You can definitely do it without Firestarter at lower spell speeds than that. I had around 1000 for a while and it was fine. You need to make sure there's as little downtime as possible between casts and queue actions during your casts by spamming the buttons so they start casting as soon as they are able. You may also need to meld some PIE to ensure that Blizzard 3 will still go off at the normal MP cost if AF3 happens to wear off during the cast.

    I'm not sure what else it could be because you should be able to cast 4 F4 in a row with ley lines and convert, and not even using swiftcast, but as mentioned you can just do 3 F4, F1, 3 F4 and it's not too big of a difference.
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  10. #2150
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    Tarta Le'marzipan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    *farewell by Godqueen Aikaal*
    Faerie is on Aether right? Cross-PF will be fine. Get groups whenever you want with the Discord for Aether center currently while you wait. It's pretty fast.
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