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  1. #561
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    On savage once I was 95% active just healing , not overhealing either. I was told I was a shit player for not dpsing. If you understand what Im saying thats why Im against healers being expected to dps. If they want to its fine, it shouldnt be forced.
    No one is forcing you, but you can't expect decent parties with standards to want you around for harder content if you don't perform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    It's a relief. A DPS with effective healing would be superfluous. At worst it would be ostracized for being half-assed.
    It was never a problem in wow. Dps/healer support was sought after, the only problem some had with it was having 2 of them in a group in poor geared current content, a bit like 2 scholars sometime. No really huge heals was shields and half-heals. It did work though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliciou5 View Post
    No one is forcing you, but you can't expect decent parties with standards to want you around for harder content if you don't perform.
    who said Im not performing? If Im 95% active then I am surely. We clear btw. Its just not done your way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    It was never a problem in wow. Dps/healer support was sought after, the only problem some had with it was having 2 of them in a group in poor geared current content, a bit like 2 scholars sometime. No really huge heals was shields and half-heals. It did work though
    This game is designed so that healing requirements are extremely predictable and healers are powerful, so other roles trying to heal is almost always a waste of time (as opposed to healers using their non-healing time to DPS, which is desirable).
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    To add to this, I heard that a scholar main-healed a12s. Some may need to think outside their box of 'standards‘ sometimes. The idea that some healers are just support/dps and cant and shouldnt do anything else needs shaking up a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    To add to this, I heard that a scholar main-healed a12s. Some may need to think outside their box of 'standards‘ sometimes. The idea that some healers are just support/dps and cant and shouldnt do anything else needs shaking up a little.
    Main healers add to DPS too btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    This game is designed so that healing requirements are extremely predictable and healers are powerful, so other roles trying to heal is almost always a waste of time (as opposed to healers using their non-healing time to DPS, which is desirable).
    I didnt dispute that in my comment. I just stated that a dps/healer works, which actually agrees with what your saying, cos disc healer, was actually like a scholar, but was intentionally made to dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Main healers add to DPS too btw.
    Sorry, I dont want to insult anyone but that was a bit of a ’duh' comment. Like I dont know that
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Demanding a person to play your way as if you own them and control them is wrong. Nobody here has that right. Unless of course you're paying them or have some sort of contract/agreement.
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    You do have the right to ask someone to perform differently, otherwise SE would just ban you for doing so. You then have the right to ignore that request. You both have the right to initiate a vote kick, then the group decides if they want to support or get rid of you. You have the right to leave the party if you don't want to play to their expectations. The group choice is the most important, not the individual.

    Saying "you don't have the right" doesn't make it magically so.
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  10. #570
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    On savage once I was 95% active just healing , not overhealing either.
    Oct 26th activity 86.18% overheal 48.65%
    Nov 2nd activity 93.07% overheal 33.87%
    Nov 9th activity 58.02% overheal 37.43%

    Either you're reading the numbers wrong or you're lying.
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    Last edited by Taika; 01-07-2017 at 04:30 AM. Reason: Fixed numbers

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