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  1. #21
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    We're starting to cherry pick this. The assumption has been made that they don't know how to heal. . . how hard is it to heal, I mean, bare basics of the job? Not hard at all.

    Now how hard is it to heal when your team is all split up, possibly out of range or not in los, and you're getting focused? Definitely tough. How hard is it to heal when you're KO'd? Pretty impossible at that point.
    How does a newer player handle that situation? They don't. They get taken out. Even with 900 more HP.

    So really, how DO they learn to handle that situation? By literally getting into matches with a team that can actually help guide them and cover them. No one learns anything getting kicked from a match.
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  2. #22
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    Even all 'pro' healers with 11k HP die several times per match, there's not much you can do if focused and CCd. Kicking for this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I guess they were just triggered by 'don't worry' remark and by dying near him when he was casting Holy. But 'don't spam Holy, stay behind and focus on healing' would be enough to correct this. What exactly pvp community benefts from the lack of healers? Nothing, only longer ques for the Feast which is died on Chaos already because nobody wants to heal.
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  3. #23
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Hi there! Sorry you had a bad experience. You are on same datacenter as me so I probably know the people who were mean. They aren't really serious when they throw insults around and I don't think the intent is to hurt people, they heckle each other the same way sometimes even if they are playing well.

    MLG = major league gaming, so they were saying 'I thought you was a pro' in a sarcastic way. The best way to start out is playing large-scale frontlines pvp on a dps role so you're just part of the pack and nobody is depending on you for heals or anything, then you can blend in and gain some experience of how things work without being individually targeted by mean comments hopefully.

    I think in the patch later this month the dev team are proceeding with disabling party chat inside The Feast pvp matches, so that place will be a no-harassment zone although the queues can be long for that.
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  4. #24
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    Nobody says you have to study basketball either, but if you want to play basketball with some people you don't go on the court and start kicking it around. When it comes to competitive games (even if just for fun) it is common courtesy to at least have some understanding of what you're doing.

    On topic of OP: 900 low hp sounds like you were not meeting the gear cap for PVP, possibly some pieces that are not even i150. If this is the case, and you are a healer, you are a detriment. I say this nice as possible.
    wierd thing is my whm ilvl is 256 its my second main job and i can play it very well in pve but not in Pvp.
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  5. #25
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Unfortunately, even if you were a veteran PVPer, you'd be blamed for everything by the "L33t-PVPers of Eorz3a" whom, we all know, are so skilled that they *never* make mistakes. I know there’s a long running "joke" about how toxic all PVPers are in this game but it genuinely is only a vocal minority. Unfortunately, not only are they extremely vocal but they are vindictive & well organised. This means that they can make life hell for a player, especially a newbie, if they want to.

    I can assure you that even if you had researched extensively beforehand, got the right gear & placed PVP actions on your hotbar, they would still have found something to be rude about. They're "comrades in arms" to the point of resentment against those who aren't in their clique. They just *won't* give anyone a chance.

    I know I will get shot down by others in this forum simply because it's a PVP forum & they don't want to hear the truth. That's fair enough, it's water off a duck's back to me. I also know that outside this forum a lot of people have shared my experiences & share my views.

    Until everyone in this game recognises & acknowledges that cheaters, elites & bullies exist in PVP then nothing will ever change. There are many nice people in this forum too who regularly say that they always give players a chance to prove themselves & I dearly commend them for that. Sadly they cannot be on your/my team for every game to make PVP bearable on the whole.
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  6. #26
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    Eggscellent's Avatar
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    Eggscellent Mordecai
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 60
    This whole thread is so cringe it's ridiculous , people get kicked from duties every day , and you're all analysing it as if you were all there , if a healer gets kicked from a dungeon for pulling , he gets aggro , doesn't heal and dies , would you complain here too ?
    But in a game with a 15 minute time limit that's possible to lose apparently it's worse.

    Grow up
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    Last edited by Eggscellent; 01-05-2017 at 07:23 PM.

  7. #27
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    Black March
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    YEA BABY GET IT ON
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  8. #28
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    Yoruno's Avatar
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    Rem Minase
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Man if anyone has the right to whine about getting kicked, it's celas marek. the god of healing himself. where were you molly cuddlers when he got kicked 328943892348282893893489284323 times? analysing his pain? delete thread please.
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  9. #29
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eggscellent View Post
    This whole thread is so cringe it's ridiculous , people get kicked from duties every day , and you're all analysing it as if you were all there , if a healer gets kicked from a dungeon for pulling , he gets aggro , doesn't heal and dies , would you complain here too ?
    But in a game with a 15 minute time limit that's possible to lose apparently it's worse.

    Grow up
    Sorryvi guess not my fault people lacking common sense in duites if that healer pulls. Is that pvp?
    Funny that you guys even want to comment on this cringe thread.dont even need to mention its cringe too.
    this thead gave players like me advice. Im thankful for it.
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  10. 01-05-2017 08:08 PM
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    Egg was not entitled enough to be allowed to talk

  11. #30
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    Man if anyone has the right to whine about getting kicked, it's celas marek. the god of healing himself. where were you molly cuddlers when he got kicked 328943892348282893893489284323 times? analysing his pain? delete thread please.
    Lmao I remember him rage in our ls in the past when he was on lich good times triggered at its finest.
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