Any other dejected healers?

[Judge_Xero]

The only time I get irritated is when the Tank will pull one room, run to another and pull more, etc. Yet still somehow expects me to be able to keep him/her alive while they are taking chunk after chunk after chunk of decent damage because they are overwhelmed. I've had to scold a few Tanks for repeatedly doing that--they eventually get the memo. Don't complain about my healing when YOU are the cause of the problem.

Healers can only do so much. I would advise you learn to work WITH your Healer rather than just acting like it's a solo mission. Sometimes, you just have to be that b*tch. Command respect--if they want revived I'd suggest they learn to cooperate.

I've run into this a couple times myself. I had a couple tanks in the new(ish) Expert Dungeons, a DRK with STR accessories with 19k HP and then just a really low geared War who had 28k HP in Defiance. I had to scold them because their lack of CD's when pulling the whole dungeon was making it difficult for me to DPS to my full extent that the DPS were almost pulling more than me in large AOE packs.

If there's anything the preview of Stormlord has taught me. Its that this game worships dps and spits on it's healers no matter what.
I may be the only who feels this way but I'm quite tired of being blamed for every one elses mistakes, dealing with huge pulls, and other players acting like a healer is obligated to do what their told.

I know where you are coming from, but I don't think that is the purpose of this expansion having 2 DPS classes and no other healers. For the most part Healers and Tanks are well rounded and will only get better with changes to their skillsets with a new level cap. What we will be missing is more DPS diversity to help remove "ideal" party compositions, which I'm sure will be adjusted with 2 additional DPS Jobs.

i.e. If RDM can apply a piercing Debuff while also utilizing Magic attacks that will create better party synergy for a BRD/RDM and any additional caster classes, akin to the level of Synergy we see from MCH/DRG/NIN.

People will always want the best party comps for HC Progression, but for more casual players it should bridge the gap on allowing people to play what they like while not being significantly less optimal.

[Rivxkobe]

Ok.

I'm confused. What does the preview of Stormblood have to do with healers vs. DPS? And I can't find any info anywhere that states that there is only going to be 2 DPS and no new healer in the expansion. I feel like I am missing information or people are stating things are not correct/have nor correlation with eachother.

[Chiramu]

If anything PLD got the worst lot out of Heavensward. Healers are in a pretty good state in this expansion, you can be low on gear in the content and have zero trouble popping Cleric Stance.

[Chocolys]

.. If everyone hated it, or even the majority of people. It would probably change. But there are so so many people that love it. Some times you have to just accept that others are happy about something that you hate. And then you need to decide, can I really give this a shot and see if it can also make me happy? Or you need to decide, this really isn't for me, I need to try something else and see if I like that better. That might be another class, another role, or even another game. But feeling dejected about it and posting on the forums won't change much.

Thanks for sharing, it's always interesting to read other player experience when it's done calmly. I only quoted the last part of it because that's one of the point I might disagree with you.

Where do you get your numbers about how many prefers for example [85% healing, 15% dps] to [55% healing, 45% dps] about the healing job (it just made up numbers but you get the idea I hope) The numbers of active healers in FF XIV might be playing the current meta because that's how it is but that does not mean a certain part of them would not prefer a meta more focus on healing in the first place. (Most of the players don't even read or express themself on this forum at all).
I don't know how big is this part and I'm not sure even SE can know, since their combat log can quantify battle data but not player feelings about their class.
They might listen to community feedback or eventually do internal appreciation testing on a special pool of testers but videogame history have shown than that latter method have hard time representing the reality of the playerbase feeling.
On this forum there is also recurrent threads and comments about that healing debate from different players, I myself in the case of the Trinity gameplay that FF XIV uses, a healing class matching its designation and to be mostly about healing with DPS being just a little side part of it (with content tuned for it)
So I believe feedback is important, and I disagree when you say it's useless to give it on the forum, because sometimes feedback is actually taken into consideration.

If there's anything the preview of Stormlord has taught me. Its that this game worships dps and spits on it's healers no matter what.

I may be the only who feels this way but I'm quite tired of being blamed for every one elses mistakes, dealing with huge pulls, and other players acting like a healer is obligated to do what their told.

The dark knight quest was probably written by a healer from what I've heard about it because seven hells I'm tired of it.

Stormlord? I assume you mean Stormblood or am I missing something?
If you're talking about Stormblood, I don't think we have enough data about it to make factual critics about it.

As a WHM (only healing class I play in Duties), I don't mind huge pulls in random matched group as long as they're not done wildly without checking first if there is no undergeared, unexperienced or uncomfortable players about it.
But sure if someone starts a wild big pull and then it fails, he should not complain about that and just try a smaller one for next attempt. But if he does complaint, well I won't care
You have to learn to ignore trolls, jerks and morons when randomly matched else you will get white hairs quickly ^^

I loved the Dark Knight quest. I don't know why you did not like it, but anyway that's just about personal preferences.

[DynamoAce]

I like to hit things with the book. ....And of course heal too.

[The_NPC]

I only DPS as WHM outa boardum (ie: everyones good on HP & arn't taking enouf dmg to care) & thou I haven't been in online game long, think I join the internet matchmaking community 3 months before Halo: Reach came out, the only "Recent" game of any type I've played that makes me heal almost all the time is playing Mercy in Overwatch (yes she has a gun & yes I've killed ppl with it but god damn do u heal a lot as her with random ppl... & die fast once the enemy team see's u, probably cause of her team raise Ultimate but damn) now to be fair FF14 can give me that fealing but mostly only when somethings new, I'm undergeared or maybe A12n's healer check type fight

[randysquirrel]

When things go wrong, blame is always thrown about, not necessarily at the right people, you just have to learn to not let it get to you and realise a good portion of the playerbase have absolutely no idea what's going on in any particular run. Sometimes you are blamed when you are not the problem, and as irritating as it is, get used to it, as it happens a lot.

I'm often told "omg healer can you plz heal!" when the tank has only dropped to like 50-60% hp, and also tanks never using any CDs at all is quite common. Of course there are times when I do fck up (yesterday I dropped the tank when I mistargeted and hit a dps with my Essential Dignity instead of him, newb I know but it happens lol), those times just hold your hands up and apologise, its all you can do. I'll gladly admit when I've done something wrong, as I'd like to think it's not that common, but equally I won't accept blame when it isn't me.

Mentor roulette put me in void ark yesterday. everyone is so overgeared now there was almost no healing to be done at all, both me (ast) and sch stayed cleric the whole time almost as the fairy keeps most up and I threw out a group HOT every now and then. SMN chipped up how "can the healers plz heal and not just sit in fcking cleric!" after they ate a number of aoes, before I could even answer the tank told them to shut up and stop getting hit by such stupid mechs. the smn then ate every petrifaction on the last boss and got a few slap emotes from various party members. quite rare, but for once a party that actually saw what was happening and didn't just buy into the blaming comment that the smn started with, obv just trying to deflect from their own failing

[ckc22]

When things go wrong, blame is always thrown about, not necessarily at the right people, you just have to learn to not let it get to you and realise a good portion of the playerbase have absolutely no idea what's going on in any particular run. Sometimes you are blamed when you are not the problem, and as irritating as it is, get used to it, as it happens a lot.

I'm often told "omg healer can you plz heal!" when the tank has only dropped to like 50-60% hp, and also tanks never using any CDs at all is quite common.

Part of this is SE's commitment to making sure no one can ever get harassed for anything ever meaning that often its hard to actually assess how well someone is doing/who's getting carried etc.

[Eul]

We still don't know the new skill of the current healer so I'm still chill about it.

[CookieMonsta]

Part of this is SE's commitment to making sure no one can ever get harassed for anything ever meaning that often its hard to actually assess how well someone is doing/who's getting carried etc.

Lol yeah, like literally anything that is useful is obfuscated. Emnity generation number and rate, HPS, DPS. Hell we only got visible TP bars recently lol.