Cleric stance on sastasha for Ast

[xabyssopelagicx]

Thanks for all the input guys, I figured as much. In game I was being called out for it being 60 but I got to 50 twice before the HS expansion I consider myself more then an adequate healer. Just wanted to make sure from some overs it was the right choice. I would probably be higher level but I've been helping my wife learn the game and progress her blm. The tank was talking about clearing a12s as a healer but I feel like if he did without dpsing as a healer his team carried him pretty hard

[Rongway]

There's no situation before Lv20 where having Protect will result in you having to heal the tank any less. You'll either have a tank who is geared and knows how to use his cooldowns such that you have to heal no more than once per pull, or you'll have a tank who is undergeared or unfamiliar with his abilities who will require you to heal after every other Malefic. Cleric Stance is the best slot 1 ability for its ability to cut minutes from the run. It's fine to slot Protect at 20 permanently, rather than swapping it in and out at entry.

[Kuroka]

Kinda use protect and swich the skill with CS afterwards? xD Thats what i do usually in palace.

[Cynfael]

There's no situation before Lv20 where having Protect will result in you having to heal the tank any less. You'll either have a tank who is geared and knows how to use his cooldowns such that you have to heal no more than once per pull, or you'll have a tank who is undergeared or unfamiliar with his abilities who will require you to heal after every other Malefic. Cleric Stance is the best slot 1 ability for its ability to cut minutes from the run. It's fine to slot Protect at 20 permanently, rather than swapping it in and out at entry.

Agreed. It's not even worth swapping Protect back in and having to deal with the annoying CD. The impact of Protect at low levels is so insignificant that no one would bother waiting for it to be cast if they truly realized how much of a placebo it actually is when your base defensive stats are in the double digits.

[Rivxkobe]

Isn't most casters leveling gear kinda even with mnd/int? It's been over a year since I've leveled a caster so I don't remember.

So, clerics in lower dungeons will give you what...5 extra points to int? And in the same breath, CS shouldn't gimp your healing that bad either. I think trying to sneak in one more Malfect or Stella made have done the tank in lol.

No. Its more than that.

I did some basic quick tests on the first two bats at minimum ILVL to check:

- With basic low level equipment (actually only gaining INT and MND from Right side) on a SCH I gained 5 points in damage per Ruin with CS up.

- With a Synched down AST (level 60) I went from ~35 damage per Malefic to ~70 damage per Malefic with CS up.

- With and without Protect I took between 40 and 47 damage.

- As a Paladin I took ~32-35 damage from each attack. Again with and without Protect.

In the end Protect proved pretty much useless and CS is a DPS increase no matter what.

And please don't ever use Stella. Ever.

[Mhaeric]

And please don't ever use Stella. Ever.

Tell that to Stanley.

[VanilleFang]

I can think of very few places where a slow (I mean heavy) is useful. Slowing the heart from the cat in A7 is a good time, for example. But Stella is pretty... eeeehhh.

[Urthdigger]

I can think of very few places where a slow is useful. Slowing the heart from the cat in A7 is a good time, for example. But Stella is pretty... eeeehhh.

I think they just meant "don't use it as a dps spell." There are a ton of instances where gravity is useful (slow is a different status entirely). I know personally when I PVP on WHM, Stone is my most potent DPS spell just because it keeps it keeps them from fleeing the actual DDs on my team.

[Rivxkobe]

I think they just meant "don't use it as a dps spell."

^

I mean its good for PvP but out of that and in A7 (though most everyone else has some way of slowing it down) there is little use of it. Really in regular dungeon runs, FATES etc. its pointless.

[VanilleFang]

slow

I meant Heavy. I'm bad for that.

And I agree with Rivxkobe. Stella is a garbage DPS spell.