"Return to Ivalice" Stormblood's 24 Man Raid

[Balipu]

It's so disheartening to see so many people focusing on Viera when Ivalice is mentioned instead of all the stuff about the setting that is much, much more interesting - like the intrigue, character depth and exceptional atmosphere and world building.

Viera are such a tiny, minor part of the overall scheme of things that I can't help but feel like this is just another bandwagon.

We don't need a new race anytime soon anyway - not until the current batch of existing races have more options made available to them.

This is the internet. All they care about are Harambe jokes and fetish fuel.

Personally what I want to know first is what version of Ivalice this is going to be.

[Iromi]

This is the internet. All they care about are Harambe jokes and fetish fuel.

Personally what I want to know first is what version of Ivalice this is going to be.

So true. Yeah I would like to know that as well. Personally hoping for FFT as that one was my favorite.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

instead of all the stuff about the setting that is much, much more interesting - like the intrigue, character depth and exceptional atmosphere and world building.

Viera are such a tiny, minor part.

So why can't we have both? I hated pretty much every game set in Ivalice except Tactics and the Remake because I hated the systems in place. I loved the original FFT, but why can't we have Ramza, Altima, the Zodiac Braves among others, as well as Viera? I would inflict great bodily harm for the chance to have access to the world I love with a race that I've been deathly curious about and wanted to find out more about. Why are you so fixated on wanting them gone instead of looking at the parts that you enjoy?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

So why can't we have both? I hated pretty much every game set in Ivalice except Tactics and the Remake because I hated the systems in place. I loved the original FFT, but why can't we have Ramza, Altima, the Zodiac Braves among others, as well as Viera? I would inflict great bodily harm for the chance to have access to the world I love with a race that I've been deathly curious about and wanted to find out more about. Why are you so fixated on wanting them gone instead of looking at the parts that you enjoy?

There can only be one!

[Balipu]

So true. Yeah I would like to know that as well. Personally hoping for FFT as that one was my favorite.

No, you misunderstand. I meant in the way I outlined a few pages ago.
1. Ivalice as an area on Hydaelin (like Doma, Costa del Sol, or the Crystal Tower)
2. Ivalice as an Alternate to the Eorzean Alliance on a different fragment.
3. The actual Ivalice from Tactics, 12 and Vagrant Story, that we access via the rift

[Kyuuen]

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Because of development time. Have to remember a lot of game companies expect people they employ to do more than just one job, are there some that only focus on one thing or another? Certainly, but companies these days look for employees that have multiple skill sets. Then you have the enormous list of things to do.. World building and design, story creation and lore, character modeling and design, armor and weapon design, animation, music score and sound effects, and the elephant in the room.. actual programming. And those are just the things I can think of.

Can't have EVERYTHING under the sun, especially if you only have 'x' amount of devs and 'y' amount of time to do it in.

[Kurogaea]

Wow.. so being logical and reasonable is now equivocal to being arrogant? Neat.

BTW where did I mention SAM or BLU?

Requesting something that's possible isn't illogical or unreasonable. Telling others what they can or cannot ask for in an MMO is arrogant, especially if your not a dev team member.

Also that Sam and BLU thing was an example.

[loreleidiangelo]

So why can't we have both? I hated pretty much every game set in Ivalice except Tactics and the Remake because I hated the systems in place. I loved the original FFT, but why can't we have Ramza, Altima, the Zodiac Braves among others, as well as Viera? I would inflict great bodily harm for the chance to have access to the world I love with a race that I've been deathly curious about and wanted to find out more about. Why are you so fixated on wanting them gone instead of looking at the parts that you enjoy?

I actually like FFXII, FF Tactics and the world of Ivalice in general, but I can't stand it when people act like the Internet Thought Police and try to shift discussions to "approved" aspects, rather than ones they personally don't care about. People want to talk about the new 24-man raid lore? Then talk about it, but don't tell the rest of us to shut up about Viera because you think it's not important. (Obvious rhetorical "you" there, not anyone in particular.) I think the new swimming feature looks gimmicky AF, but other than asking a single question about what sort of gameplay plans the developers had for it I didn't stick around and tell people that they should be talking about underwater PVP plans or potential ship battles instead of RPing and fishing.

[Kurogaea]

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Apparently there'll be no underwater battles (which is lazy as fuck, FFX did it well and so did Guild Wars 2), but we can talk to npcs underwater. maybe a few areas are only accessible through swimming as well. Also, I bet they won't have something like water currents or some bullshit but something just as tedious lol.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

FFX is also on a completely different game engine compared to FFXIV, so less lazy and more of "can't just copy it over because games X and Y did it"

And underwater fights suck big time.