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  1. #7621
    Player
    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Character
    Kochie Monster
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    @Artemiz. Yeah there's a time and place for "helping". And tone and wording can play a factor in how it's recieved. But think about this ice mages in the vault... lvl 58! That's 30 levels or more of dungeons. Lets saaaaay 100 dungeons. Maybe less. But 10 minutes extra each dungeon. If it was in sastasha or copperbell, hell, even DD, that's when you are polite and nice. Otherwise the next party this guy lands in has to deal with it too.
    (1)

  2. #7622
    Player
    SilkaN's Avatar
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    Jul 2016
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    630
    Character
    Reginaux Vannaire
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    PotD, floors 31-40.

    Had a Bard or Dragoon (can't remember anymore) who'd always sit down at the Cairn of Passage as soon as we found it, while the rest of us proceeded to clear the remaining rooms.
    Naturally, I told him how much of great help he was.
    He responded with things such as

    "I just wanna get this done quickly" (not saying anything and sitting around won't help him speed up the run, but he didn't realize that)

    "I don't care what the majority of the party wants, I can't be bothered" (go play solo or with friends)

    Well, what did I do?
    I implied that I was going to vote dismiss him shortly before the boss and he realized that.
    Suddenly, he helped us clearing the rooms.
    Problem solved.
    (12)

  3. #7623
    Player
    Azper's Avatar
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    Character
    Aria Ashford
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Time for two good, though short, stories!

    I got the Guildhest that's... I think the very first one, actually. The one with the Goobue and other assorted trash? Basic Training or something? Anyway! We all know how this usually goes: someone (not always the tank) runs in pulls all the things ever, mash keys, victory. Well for the first time in 3 years, I had a group actually perform it according to the game text. The tank pulled each pack, one at a time, and then everyone stayed outside of the black circle of doom. Once those enemies spawned, we also pulled each set, one at a time, and finished off the Goobue by itself. I'm not saying it was any faster or more efficient, but it was kinda nice seeing people perform accordingly with how the game intended.

    I also had a 14 minute Tam-Tara Deepcroft full of newbies. They may have been alts, but I had a tank confidently pulling multiple packs at a time and MCH that really knew how to pump out some aoe on trash. It's nice to have moments that restore your faith in the players when you find some gems amidst the rubble.
    (7)

  4. #7624
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Aurora Vlondett
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    I got the Guildhest that's... I think the very first one, actually. The one with the Goobue and other assorted trash? Basic Training or something? Anyway! We all know how this usually goes: someone (not always the tank) runs in pulls all the things ever, mash keys, victory. Well for the first time in 3 years, I had a group actually perform it according to the game text. The tank pulled each pack, one at a time, and then everyone stayed outside of the black circle of doom. Once those enemies spawned, we also pulled each set, one at a time, and finished off the Goobue by itself. I'm not saying it was any faster or more efficient, but it was kinda nice seeing people perform accordingly with how the game intended.
    I mean, part of the reason no one does is because tanks at that level don't have a ranged pulling option, and teaching players that anyone else should be pulling is kinda dumb.
    (0)

  5. #7625
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    Texa's Avatar
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    Jul 2016
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Texa Yuu
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I went into a trial the other day and saw a bonus, so I did a quick rundown of the mechanics and got called bossy for doing so.

    Sorry I don't want the first trial roulette that I run in the year 2017 to be a wipe of the darn Chrysalis.
    (7)

  6. #7626
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    dragonseth07's Avatar
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    Manhattan Beach
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    Character
    Ratithgar Jovasch
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    I went into a trial the other day and saw a bonus, so I did a quick rundown of the mechanics and got called bossy for doing so.

    Sorry I don't want the first trial roulette that I run in the year 2017 to be a wipe of the darn Chrysalis.
    I've met a lot of players who prefer to wipe repeatedly than be told how a fight works.
    (1)

  7. #7627
    Player
    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Character
    Cait Zilla
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Theorically you can find a player who wants the pleasure to discover and solve the mechanics by himself, the same way people did when the content was first released. Not everyone wants the answers handed to them.
    But honestly I think these kind of players are practically rare
    (2)

  8. #7628
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    Rhyku's Avatar
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    Jan 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
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    Character
    Estinien Wyrmblood
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Funny I was just reading the last couple of pages and going "man, am I glad I don't meet these bossy elitists". And karma bit me hard in the ass when my roulette dinged. It was a 14min in prog Aurum Vale. Load in, say my greetings, notice one of the members is going batshit crazy ranting over the tank and healer. Also noticed he was a mentor.

    Oh boy. Fun times. NOT.

    Throughout the run, said mentor was busy snarking and commenting but never really giving any advice to the two newbies. Sometimes, he'd go into one of his savage rants so hard, he'd be standing still raving while I was plugging away at the mobs. At final boss, after bitching at healer for not healing him (dude seriously, why didn't you eat the damn fruit??), his attention turned to me for failing to aoe enough and "why didn't you use Flare. Fail blm, fail mentor, fail this fail that" on and on, even after I told him AV is max level synced to 49 and Flare is a lvl 50 skill. Also, why on earth would I use F2 on a singular target, unless I missed some memo that F2 is the new F1? And in case he didn't realized, I've been carrying his stupid ranting arse in the dungeon. I felt so bad for the newbies that I pmed them after the run to tell them that they did great and to ignore the troll mentor.

    Horee shait, I'm still not sure if the dude was high or something, but that was the most impressive (negative) rant I've ever seen, considering the amount of crap he could spew. I frankly think it outbeats the troll monk with se commands on all of his skills.
    (4)

  9. #7629
    Player
    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Character
    Mim Silmaril
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    Time for two good, though short, stories!

    I got the Guildhest that's... I think the very first one, actually. The one with the Goobue and other assorted trash? Basic Training or something? Anyway! We all know how this usually goes: someone (not always the tank) runs in pulls all the things ever, mash keys, victory. Well for the first time in 3 years, I had a group actually perform it according to the game text. The tank pulled each pack, one at a time, and then everyone stayed outside of the black circle of doom. Once those enemies spawned, we also pulled each set, one at a time, and finished off the Goobue by itself. I'm not saying it was any faster or more efficient, but it was kinda nice seeing people perform accordingly with how the game intended.
    "Steady here! Only a fool with a death wish would engage both parties at once."
    (5)

  10. #7630
    Player
    Texa's Avatar
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    Jul 2016
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Texa Yuu
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Went into Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak as a CNJ, fight was pretty uneventful until the last boss which started with the ARC single casting protect on everyone even though it wasn't running out??? Neither DPS was trying to get rid of the pods so I did it. LNC started dancing in the poison instead of attacking Graffias' Tail and I ran out of MP trying to keep him alive. Everyone but the ARC ended up dying because she could heal herself and replenish MP, then acted smug at the end for it. That fight would've gone a lot better if you'd taken out the pods to begin with. My bad for trying to keep the LNC alive though, some dps just have a deathwish : /
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