Please lift glamour restrictions!

[Gemina]

I actually am I read what you said and your reason isnt a reason other than well I dont think it should happen so it shouldn't. You have no reason other than this , I was just explaining how the devs will do what needs to be done to make the player base happy and from the looks of the op's post more people agreed with him than not so you are actually in the minority.

What reason can someone give you without you dismissing it entirely because of a pig suit? The lore is reason enough for the restrictions, and if that isn't reason enough for you then just accept that the devs don't want mages running around in tank armor and that is that. You might want to look to the freedoms you do have in the game rather than the ones you do not if you want to continue to have an enjoyable experience.

[bswpayton]

What reason can someone give you without you dismissing

This is my favorite game its my main game but the devs contradict their lore all throughout the game so im not gona act like its some holy code. Oh my healer cant wear an armor piece, but yet the devs provide reindeer suits and santa suits for everyone to wear, if you wana talk about lore then there is no Christmas in this realm according to the lore, but there are Christmas trees all over the zones right now, neither would there be a Halloween but we had pumpkins to.

Thats not lore thats not anything that has to do with the realm but its in the game because its a video game and its meant to be fun. All this well lore says this talk is draining the fun and exploration out of the game, because its not a golden rule it can be changed whenever the people who work on the game want it to change. So if you dont have a problem with people celebrating Christmas on another planet thats not earth, then why on earth would you have a problem with a scholar wearing summoner boots?

With the current system do you know how many other healers I see wearing the samething the dress with the stomach showing is so common, the full dress, and another peice. Its pretty bad

[Nezerius]

This is my favorite game its my main game but the devs contradict their lore all throughout the game so im not gona act like its some holy code. Oh my healer cant wear an armor piece, but yet the devs provide reindeer suits and santa suits for everyone to wear, if you wana talk about lore then there is no Christmas in this realm according to the lore, but there are Christmas trees all over the zones right now, neither would there be a Halloween but we had pumpkins to.

It's funny how you say the devs contradict their lore when your statement on seasonal events contradicts how they are ingame, especially since you can't even get their names right. Starlight Celebration (Christmas) and All Saints Wake (Halloween) are actually part of the lore, like how Starlight Celebration originated from Ishgard/Coerthas near the start of the Dragonsong War, while All Saints Wake is about the saints ascending to the celestial realm of the Twelve, leaving Eorzea temporarily vulnerable to increased amounts of creatures of darkness showing up.

When it comes to the gear obtained from those events, they all have to be tagged as All Classes/Lvl 1 (due to the fact that they'd want everyone to be able to wear it), and their glamour system is likely coded in such a way that it simply allows glamouring of anything that says "All Classes".

While I still think they could lessen the restrictions on glamours (like the crafted skirt I mentioned in a previous reply), job-defining gear should remain exclusive to the job it's part of.

[bswpayton]

It's funny how you say the devs contradict their lore when

Im of both minds give more options are just let us make the options doesnt matter to me because at the end of the day it is just gear and thats all. If I want story if I want lore thats called msq or job quest.

But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat. This idea doesnt effect anything other than people dont like the idea of it.

If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy. If enough people wanted this then those opposers would just have to suck it up just like the people that want it to change now are doing so.

[Vidu]

But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat. This idea doesnt effect anything other than people dont like the idea of it.

It does. The art-team designs those gear thats for one specific class for this one specific class and thats influencing how they're designing it in order to represent that one class best. If you lift the restriction on it thats obviously gone and we will see a lot more of generic armour because after all everyone can wear everything on any job. Look how generic and recycled the shared pieces look already!
Let the art-team design those special gear for one specific job to give them the chance to make it fit that one job really well because its only meant for that one job.

And please... stop using "but we can do silly stuff with [bikini/pig suit/maid costume/event gear/etc.] already!" as an excuse - that stuff is meant to be funny and silly while the real gear isnt (...except for the last SMN-set, maybe). That gear was designd with the idea of it being funny in mind, while artifact gear (or other restricted gear for that matter) was designed with something else in mind.
As flattering as it might be for the design-team that you like certain parts so much you just want to wear them with every class (and yes please, we could use a few more nice shoes/high boots for all classes) I also feel its a bit... disrespectful towards the dev-team to tell them "Because you put this one funny thing in, I demand you to give me everything now!" and not respect that they might have other plans in mind (as in: keeping an eye on job-identity and not letting tanks wear robs or have mages run around in heavy armour)

[Nezerius]

But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat. This idea doesnt effect anything other than people dont like the idea of it.

This is a pretty boring rebuttal, it can be said about pretty much anything 'for the sake of more options'. Why do you feel like you should be able to wear the iconic WHM AF robe while you're on a DRK? Please think of an answer that doesn't include the seasonal event gear (already addressed that), or something along the lines of 'cause more options is good'.

If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy. If enough people wanted this then those opposers would just have to suck it up just like the people that want it to change now are doing so.

Not being able to wear a WHM AF robe on a DRK isn't really going to affect the amount of new players joining the game. On the other hand, having to finish the ARR, Heavensward and Stormblood MSQ to get to the expansion after that likely will. Lore is important to SE, but so is a steady stream of new players.

[bswpayton]

This is a pretty boring rebuttal, it can be said about pretty much anything 'for the sake of more options'. Why do you feel like you should be able to

It was boring because the only argument is the lore the lore the lore, Iv'e mention several points of horrible lore and just intervention done by the devs to bypass lore and somehow its all justifiable.

All that tells me is people pick and chose what it is they want to believe is lore appropriate. The silly suits like I keep mentioning and tanks being able to wear basically anything they want, o well that's fine its not lore but it was just put in for jokes and laughs. Oh the fact that the game doesnt even connect the job system at all oh thats ok because I like to play all my characters on one so I dont really need an explanation for that (Warrior of Light Ill take that broad statement and run with it).

Skipping 75 percent of the game which is as lore as it gets oh that doesnt matter, we need more players to come to the game ill over look that. A scholar wanting to wear summoner boots when it branches from the same exact class, hah all hell breaks lose no never thats against the lore. If everyone cared about lore as much as they claim they would demand an explanation for the job system to begin with in this very game, but nobody cares about this event tho, its basically aside form msq what the whole game is based on.

All these post have shown me is that people like to disagree with changes to their favorite type of lore not lore itself when it comes to this game. That people will overlook major plot wholes if its to their own convenience or perception.

[ReplicaX]

It was boring because the only argument is the lore the lore the lore, Iv'e mention several points of horrible lore and just intervention done by the devs to bypass lore and somehow its all justifiable.

As stated there is one argument you can't win: Creative Control and preservation of assets.

That is not even lore.

Go look at WoW's Transmog. Its a fine example of Creative Control and preservation of assets. They have a larger Dev team and have made years of revenue off the IP. Regardless of community requests. The game still has stricter rules than XIV and they refuse to spend resources and money to redo their item system for even dyeing options.

[Niwashi]

But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat.

What does combat have to do with anything? We're discussing appearance. Our characters could all be stick figures or chess pieces with no displayed gear at all and it wouldn't affect combat. It would, however, be a very different game.

The silly suits like I keep mentioning and tanks being able to wear basically anything they want, o well that's fine its not lore but it was just put in for jokes and laughs.

Wearing an outfit that looks silly and doesn't really say anything about what job you're currently on is different than wearing an outfit that declares you to be one job when in fact you're another. One of those just isn't making a claim, whereas the other is making a false claim.

(Personally, I'd prefer it if some of the joke gear was excluded from the glamour system altogether, but that's a separate topic that's not really relevant to the current thread. Liking or disliking something is different than recognizing whether it fits the lore and the franchise or not.)

Oh the fact that the game doesnt even connect the job system at all oh thats ok because I like to play all my characters on one so I dont really need an explanation for that (Warrior of Light Ill take that broad statement and run with it).
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If everyone cared about lore as much as they claim they would demand an explanation for the job system to begin with in this very game, but nobody cares about this event tho, its basically aside form msq what the whole game is based on.

Except the game does give quite extensive lore explanations of all the jobs, and how we learn them all. That's what all the job quests are about (especially the initial quests that unlock new jobs). Our ability to alternate between them, studying multiple different styles is brought up in game as well, though only briefly since there's really nothing to explain there.

If you mean the exact mechanics of where and how we can switch between them, that's more of a gameplay concern. (Like we can't switch jobs in the middle of an instanced dungeon, but lore doesn't have any such thing as "instances". It's purely a game concept.)

I think you're expecting more of an explanation in the lore about why we can learn multiple jobs simply because you're used to other games where you can't, but really, it's the games that limit you to only one that have something to explain in that regard. (Though they don't all actually do so.) FFXIV lore isn't going to explain why it's different from other games, if those other games aren't part of the lore. And within the Final Fantasy franchise itself, those sort of limitations aren't the norm. Freely switching just as we do here is the norm.

[ErryK]

If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy.

As if that argument had any substance... if they really didn't care about the lore, they'd start people at Lv60 and remove any inkling of MSQ from the game. Don't even go there because players still have the option of going through MSQ. Also, what does MSQ have to do with it when there's approximately 13~ eras prior to our current one that is considered part of lore?