I think mentor roulette rewards should be awarded based on time rather than run count

[Yeol]

I've already suggested to change mentor rewards and let it be based on the number of commendations they get from mentor roulette. Not counting the commendations they got before becoming one.

[Squigley]

I've already suggested to change mentor rewards and let it be based on the number of commendations they from mentor roulette. Not counting the commendations they got before becoming one.

I like this idea!

[Kallistra]

It is highly unlikely that the rewards and how they are obtained will ever be changed or removed. If there was going to be any change it would have been done before the first person got the highest reward (the mount) which was added 6+ months ago and has been obtained by 50+ people. If SE were to remove the rewards now, people who do not have them and want them/are working on them, would complain. If they were to change how the reward is earned, those who have the rewards currently would complain. Damned it they do, damned if they don't.

The best thing anyone can do is to not be one of "those mentors". There is always going to be the occasional rotten apple no matter what content you do. The only thing we can do is put our best foot forward as individuals and be the example, mentor or non-mentor.

[Yeol]

^ True, it is too late for a change now since people got their rewards but for the future, if they are planing to add more rewards they should change it.

[Spiroglyph]

Hold on a second, do you mean that people should be rewarded for spending as much time as they can in an instance?
Alright, then what's stopping mentors from slowing the run down as much as they can so they run a couple of mentor roulettes for rewards, meanwhile avoiding actually being helpful so as to make sure the run takes as long as possible?

I really, really don't see this working as you intend it to work...

For one, mentor roulette does not ensure that you land an instance with someone new that needs guidance - this roulette will simply put you in instances that lack players to be able to go in. This can be, and has been many times in the times that I've queued up for it, things like lvl60 dungeons, including the latest ones (when I queue up for mentor roulette late at night I land an expert roulette dungeon most of the times), easy HM trials that require little to no time/explanation, etc. ...

If you want the rewards to increase or be reduced according to something, please make it something that would not actually compromise the overall "smoothness" of the run. After all, even if you land some sprouts in your roulette, it's not guaranteed that the run will take overly long or that the players will require any lengthy explanations... said sprout could be an alt, for example, and the run could be amazingly smooth, and you, the mentor, would wind up with gimped rewards unfairly.

Instead of time of completion, I'd prefer that rewards scale off something like commendations, or a mentor evaluation feature, for example...

Or maybe even limit the instances that you can land in through mentor roulette to instances that a sprout has queued for. This at least could dissuade achievement-hunting unhelpful mentors from queuing up for this roulette while hoping for a speed run... but honestly I'm not fond of this alternative, since it could make queues longer and dissuade mentors from queuing for the wrong reason. :P

[Malzian]

You know, I've only gotten "serious" content like twice in mentor roulette in the time I've been running it, mostly I get Guildhests.. Time would not be an incentive for me.

[Paladinleeds]

I had the idea that it should only count if you get everyone's commendations (and only in 8-man duties but I can see how that would be abused). So 4 man duties you need 3 commendations, 8 man duties you need 7 commendations. Perhaps they'd have to split the roulette (4-man mentor roulette and 8-man mentor roulette) and add an awesome reward for the 8 man mentor roulette. One that everyone will want. Say, complete 50'000 8-man duty roulettes earning 7 commendations from each roulette. This way, I believe you're forced to work with everyone to try and get those commendations.

[Hen-Hen]

I had the idea that it should only count if you get everyone's commendations (and only in 8-man duties but I can see how that would be abused). So 4 man duties you need 3 commendations, 8 man duties you need 7 commendations. Perhaps they'd have to split the roulette (4-man mentor roulette and 8-man mentor roulette) and add an awesome reward for the 8 man mentor roulette. One that everyone will want. Say, complete 50'000 8-man duty roulettes earning 7 commendations from each roulette. This way, I believe you're forced to work with everyone to try and get those commendations.

If it were like this no one would ever get the rewards ever. I manage 3comms from 4man stuff very infrequently, and have only managed the 7comm once. The runs where I've had to work hardest to ensure the clear have been the runs where I've got basically 0 comms. On top of that, all you need is someone who forgets to comm because all their energy was focused on the clear, or someone who doesn't comm because "Mentors should be doing it to help people, not for the rewards" to mean that someone who well deserves a clear to count would not get it. You'd get people just flat giving up on ever running the roulette because the chance of it being counted would be so slim that there'd be no point, defeating the point of the roulette existing in the first place.

[Kallistra]

^ True, it is too late for a change now since people got their rewards but for the future, if they are planing to add more rewards they should change it.

I highly doubt they will be adding more. The same thing happened when they added the Parade Chocobo (the 3000 commendation mount) where people were upset about how hard it was to obtain, and worried that they would add more rewards. It's been a couple years and they haven't added another one. Considering how high the requirement to get Astrope is and how few have him, I doubt they will be adding anymore rewards. And if they do, it'll probably be in several years.

[Louvain]

I've already suggested to change mentor rewards and let it be based on the number of commendations they get from mentor roulette. Not counting the commendations they got before becoming one.

There is a reward for commendations; It's called the parade chocobo.


The only thing SE can really do at that point is change how you can achieve mentor status in future patches. Many of the "mentors" get their crowns from crafting, or just doing enough dungeons and grinding that they eventually meet the requirements. Whereas being able to queue for mentor roulette requires you to have completed all the content minus HW EX primals, the mentor status itself does not, which is incredibly counterproductive. On top of making the requirement for mentor title the same as being able to queue for the roulette, I'd change the mentor status for all the different roles to be completely separate (ie you can't get the PVE crown through crafting, or pvp through pve, etc.).

Regardless of what they ultimately decide to do, the mentor status as it is right now is incredibly unsatisfactory and carries a lot of negative connotation to it.