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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Good bards know how to move without losing autos, so those weren't good bards.
    Did you even lose autos while moving with 2.x BRD? Or was that only if you moved while facing away from your target?
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Did you even lose autos while moving with 2.x BRD? Or was that only if you moved while facing away from your target?
    It was only if you looked away from the target, but now you get autos even while facing away.

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    It's terrible, but I also wish BRD wouldn't lose as much DPS for movement as it currently does in WM. At least MCH get procs that allows for movement, whilst BRD gets no such breaks. While they don't need to move all the time, you're essentially stuck in place like a BLM without the barriers BLM can at least put up. Or an instant teleport/slide (sans being close to a target and getting repelling shot).

    Yes, I know about stutter stepping or using Feint if you really needed to move or simply stance dancing. However, we're also talking about play-ability and how easy it is to pick up a class. While BRD is pretty straight forward, it completely changes once you get WM and I honestly don't think it was for the better to suddenly tack on casting bars. I'd much more prefer to be able to move and cast, or, better yet, casting bars turning into damage output modifiers with no charge being your standard potency amount (x1) and a full charge being bonus damage (like x1.5 or x2- probably not as high, but setting it for an example).

    EDIT: Basically, unless you're melee, I'm not too keen on everything being a caster.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 12-30-2016 at 11:24 AM.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    It's terrible, but I also wish BRD wouldn't lose as much DPS for movement as it currently does in WM. At least MCH get procs that allows for movement, whilst BRD gets no such breaks. While they don't need to move all the time, you're essentially stuck in place like a BLM without the barriers BLM can at least put up. Or an instant teleport/slide (sans being close to a target and getting repelling shot).
    Oh please, don't even compare. We may have shields and super slide, but our cast times are longer than a BRD's and we can't exactly click on Firestarter and Thundercloud procs if our Enochian is running low on CD juice (so our instant casts can actually cause a DPS loss), whereas you can use proc'd Straight Shot and Bloodletter (multiple times if lucky).
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    Kojima Sama
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    While they don't need to move all the time, you're essentially stuck in place like a BLM
    hmm I think you need to retry blm again because this is just incorrect.

    Or maybe the 1 second cast time for WM (stutter step) is the same as 4s for flare
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    I'd much more prefer to be able to move and cast, or, better yet, casting bars turning into damage output modifiers with no charge being your standard potency amount (x1) and a full charge being bonus damage (like x1.5 or x2- probably not as high, but setting it for an example).
    They should make it so you can move while casting, but WM puts a buff on you that is only up when you're standing still.

    As someone who has just experienced the gamechanger of WM... I'm not particularly happy about having one style luring me in on this alt for over half the game only to have the rug pulled out from under my feet.
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