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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
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    hehe yeah in any case this go to be a stormblood
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    Man, what a great tanking weapon axe is amirite? With it's inferior speed and maneuverability over a sword as well!
    It can't possibly be a DPS weapon with it's sheer impact power over any other weapon class save for hammer right?

    It's like tanks are completely incapable of doing any "hard hits" or "powerful strikes". All they seem to do is just stand there and hold their weapons up to perpetually block or parry.

    It's not like tanks, especially in this game, are quite possibly the most badass role.

    It's not like they're the guys literally in the front doing mortal combat with several giant dragons, pagan gods and time-travelling fortresses; shrugging off giant sky piercing death-beams and returning the pain with powerful cleaves/eating souls/unleashing their spirits from inside(I tried).

    Oh but clearly, Samurai, the eastern warrior that thrives in honour and practices the art of war as their craft are more fitting as the role that strikes from the rear and falls flat on their face as soon as anything threatening so much as breathes in their direction. Who would've known?

    Bless you for this post.
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  3. #63
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    Why do people want SAM to be a DPS?!?
    Why not a tank?!?

    Why do people want SAM to be a tank?!?
    Why not a DPS?!?

    Why does no one want SAM to be a heal?!?


    What about leaving the devs do what they want with their game and just enjoy it instead oh whining all the time?!?


    Why add Viera?!?
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    There's other reasons for this...

    1. DRK fights for MT with PLD, and in a lot of situations you're better off with DRK because of the higher DPS they can push. DRK are also better in any instance that deals high magic damage to the MT.

    2. AST is brokenly OP so of course a lot of healers are using it. It has nice aesthetics, but a raiding party is strongest with SCH+AST right now. Also cards.
    Except the trend of "Best job = most played" isn't followed when it comes to AST and MCH. You say AST is "brokenly OP" and yet it's still the least played healer. And MCH is likewise the least played DPS job, despite the fact it's capable of doing more damage than BRD, yet there is twice the number of BRD's than MCH. DRK is more complex than PLD from a mechanics/rotation perspective and yet it's the most played tank.
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    Last edited by Shippuu; 12-27-2016 at 08:27 AM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    Man, what a great tanking weapon axe is amirite? With it's inferior speed and maneuverability over a sword as well!
    It can't possibly be a DPS weapon with it's sheer impact power over any other weapon class save for hammer right?

    It's like tanks are completely incapable of doing any "hard hits" or "powerful strikes". All they seem to do is just stand there and hold their weapons up to perpetually block or parry.

    It's not like tanks, especially in this game, are quite possibly the most badass role.

    It's not like they're the guys literally in the front doing mortal combat with several giant dragons, pagan gods and time-travelling fortresses; shrugging off giant sky piercing death-beams and returning the pain with powerful cleaves/eating souls/unleashing their spirits from inside(I tried).

    Oh but clearly, Samurai, the eastern warrior that thrives in honour and practices the art of war as their craft are more fitting as the role that strikes from the rear and falls flat on their face as soon as anything threatening so much as breathes in their direction. Who would've known?
    I love how you just sideways called all DPSes and Healers cowards for being forced to play within the game's designs. Like...really, that is what your post is doing, you just called everyone who isn't a tank, a coward and dishonorable. It's also funny how other tanks are just showering you with praise for this post when you should be getting called out by everyone. It's rather disgusting.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I love how you just sideways called all DPSes and Healers cowards for being forced to play within the game's designs. Like...really, that is what your post is doing, you just called everyone who isn't a tank, a coward and dishonorable. It's also funny how other tanks are just showering you with praise for this post when you should be getting called out by everyone. It's rather disgusting.
    This. Is healers should be given credit, since we are helping with doing damage, as well as keeping you tanks alive. Without us, you would be dead in those fights against dragons, gods and fortresses. We decided whether you live or die.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I love how you just sideways called all DPSes and Healers cowards for being forced to play within the game's designs. Like...really, that is what your post is doing, you just called everyone who isn't a tank, a coward and dishonorable. It's also funny how other tanks are just showering you with praise for this post when you should be getting called out by everyone. It's rather disgusting.
    Whew, that's a bit of a reach to try and get offended. Their point is valid in that DPS roles stand either from afar or attack from behind. They never said anything about the actual people playing them, eesh. If you're looking at a role that's appears the most heroic, it's clearly the tank role, they face the enemies head on, and suffer/sacrifice themselves for the reast of the party. Samurai are steeped with fantasies about honor and servitude which is befitting for a role as a tank. Most people would consider it a rather dishonorable thing to attack an enemy from behind while they're otherwise preoccupied fighting someone else.

    Again though, they never insinuated DPS players were cowards, that's on you if you're gonna go through the mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion.


    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    This. Is healers should be given credit, since we are helping with doing damage, as well as keeping you tanks alive. Without us, you would be dead in those fights against dragons, gods and fortresses. We decided whether you live or die.
    Tanks and healers have a symbiotic relationship. Without Healers, tanks would eventually die to the damage, but without tanks, healers would become red smears on the ground. So while healers may decide whether people live or die, without the tank everyone would die.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    This. Is healers should be given credit, since we are helping with doing damage, as well as keeping you tanks alive. Without us, you would be dead in those fights against dragons, gods and fortresses. We decided whether you live or die.
    Everyone thinks their job is most important lol. No one should be "given credit" in an MMO where all roles are needed and equally important.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
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    I'm sorry, I wholly disagree. I understand their overall point, get that perfectly fine, and there is some merit to it. And yeah, I'm probably taking it a little personally, but there is absolutely a sideways insult towards non-tank players in there.

    Oh but clearly, Samurai, the eastern warrior that thrives in honour and practices the art of war as their craft are more fitting as the role that strikes from the rear and falls flat on their face as soon as anything threatening so much as breathes in their direction.
    You honestly don't see that as calling DPS and Healers dishonorable and cowards for doing what our roles are built to do? Cause if not, then I'm not the one doing mental gymnastics. But no, how about I just sit there and take the hit, or strike from the front and take all those tankbusters and cleaves! Yup, mhm, now I'm an honorable Monk right?
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    Last edited by StarRosie; 12-27-2016 at 11:09 AM.

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