Can Red Mage start at level 30?

[Jandor]

Ninja had to lvl rogue, maybe since you care about consistency you should be mad about DRK, AST and MCH starting at 30 and not having to lvl classes.

Rogue is a class, started at 1. Ninja is a job, started at 30.
Advanced jobs like regular jobs start at 30 as well.

I'd personally prefer if DRK, AST & MCH had classes, but the current set up makes a sort of sense. Starting at 50 is just arbitrary.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Rogue is a class, started at 1. Ninja is a job, started at 30.
Advanced jobs like regular jobs start at 30 as well.

I'd personally prefer if DRK, AST & MCH had classes, but the current set up makes a sort of sense. Starting at 50 is just arbitrary.

Only because it was introduced before any expansions. They have since acknowledged the class system is dreadful hence the quiet shelving they have done. Red Mage starting at 50 is no different than Heavensward jobs starting at 30. It's putting them closer to the level cap so people can reasonably enjoy leveling them through Stormblood. The majority aren't going to want to slog through old dungeons and content they've been playing for years.

Yes, please! Have my like.

I've mentioned this before, but my desire to start at a lower level stems from two reasons. 1) I enjoy the leveling process. Starting at 50 means fewer levels, which means the job will be capped sooner, which means I'll be "done" with it sooner. Leveling alts is one of my primary activities in MMOs. 2) Starting at 50 means, if I want to make an alt for red mage, I'll need to grind through ARR on a class I have no interest in repeating the leveling process on. This is the same problem that the HW jobs had, and I am very frustrated, because SE ADMITTED that locking the HW jobs away was a mistake. So why are they doing it again? Sheer stubbornness? It can't be ignorance, since they've outright stated they shouldn't have done mch/ast/drk that way.

The devs do not consider alts part of the argument since you have no actually need of them. Nevertheless, the flip side of your argument is by starting Red Mage at 1 or 30, everyone else is now forced to grind through old content-- in essence "locking" them away from their preferred job. One group was always going to be disappointed by this. Personally, while I do not mind leveling in most games, it's not particularly fun in XIV because I can't practice my rotation until level 50. Even with the changes to say, Dragoon. I can at least get a good handle with how my rotation will look. Prior to that? I'm mostly bored spamming Impulse Drive or Full Thrust combo with occasional oGCDs weaved in as I finally get them. Abilities are simply too far apart from 1-50 imo

[AlphaFox]

I have to agree with level 30 as a starting point. I know others disagree but I feel I get to learn the job more when I have a few skills already as opposed to a mass amount of them. Even going back to classes I never touched once I leveled to 60 I almost feel overwhelmed but then again I also actually enjoy leveling and learning new abilities and no, starting an alt isn't the same for me. Yeah I suppose PotD would be an option but still, I'd prefer level 30.

[bswpayton]

I agree I love leveling its much more fun leveling a job as opposed to gear

[Naunet]

Some people enjoy leveling and learning their jobs can we start at level 30. Instead of 50 it makes more sense since jobs (including heavenward jobs) start at 30.

Yes, please! Have my like.

I've mentioned this before, but my desire to start at a lower level stems from two reasons. 1) I enjoy the leveling process. Starting at 50 means fewer levels, which means the job will be capped sooner, which means I'll be "done" with it sooner. Leveling alts is one of my primary activities in MMOs. 2) Starting at 50 means, if I want to make an alt for red mage, I'll need to grind through ARR on a class I have no interest in repeating the leveling process on. This is the same problem that the HW jobs had, and I am very frustrated, because SE ADMITTED that locking the HW jobs away was a mistake. So why are they doing it again? Sheer stubbornness? It can't be ignorance, since they've outright stated they shouldn't have done mch/ast/drk that way.

[ZhaneX]

30 to 50 and 50 to 60 were always completely separate storylines. All this really means is red mage will only have 2 stories instead of 3.

Not entirely true. As I said, some felt like a cohesive continuation of the prior story, while others felt significantly disconnected.

SCH I'd say is a good example of what felt like a cohesive continuation; working with the Tonberries you helped free of rancor to hunt down the demon who cursed them eons ago.
DRG is probably the best example of one that suffered from a disconnect with its previous story, given that story fed directly into the Main Storyline of Heavensward, leaving... not a lot interesting for the DRG Quests.

[Greven]

Whatever they will decide to do I hope they are going to make it coherent. What I mean is, if SB job start at 50, make HW job 50 as well. Otherwise make SB job 30.

[Jandor]

Well, that's rude.

[Allistar]

What would be nice is if they gave us a choice of what level we want to start the jobs at once they become unlocked...That way those of us who want to start at level 1 can do so...Those who want 30 can do that and those who want 50 can ..This way everyone is happy. As a 'modern mmo' choices should be abundant for so many differing play styles and point of views.

[Gardthorne]

Some people enjoy leveling and learning their jobs can we start at level 30.

These people need therapy.