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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    The only way I see them making Samurai a tank is if that becomes their solution to Warrior basically being mandatory for raiding. In that sense, it would be PLD vs. DRK and WAR vs. SAM for whoever you bring. Can't say how exactly I feel about that idea since it doesn't solve the problem so much as just introduces another overpowered job to "balance" it.
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    I'll be damned, I saw the dps thread, I did not see the tank one. WHY are there two of them, might as well let this thread die then.

    Thank you.
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    Last edited by Pinkie_Pie; 12-24-2016 at 08:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    They're tank players.

    they want stuffs for themselves.
    At this point I don't care either way, since Red Mage was confirmed as not being ruined. People want jobs to be all kinds of things, and while some of those things are stupid and clearly bad ideas (like a primarily melee red mage would have been, much less even more outlandish and idiotic ideas like RDM Tank), Samurai would probably be perfectly represented either way.

    At this point all I ask is that they have Gil Toss / Zeniage incorporated into one or two of their moves (a circular aoe enmity attack, for example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    I'll be sure to post my Samurai thread for you tomorrow morning. It'll be especially good since I'll be the OP. And I'm especially good.
    omg but but...my Christmas weekend will be totally ruined....noooooooooooooooooo

    you cruel fiend! you'll never get away with this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    WHY? It's hard enough to balance 3 without phasing out one of them into nothingness, adding 4 would be a nightmare and SAM can't be an evasion tank cause they already said evasion would be impossible to add into a tank. Adding parrying is a Drk kinda thing so to copy them would make the SAM class boring, they can't make it into a paladin then you would have a mirror of a class and finally they can't be an HP tank cause warrior got that role.

    See the problem? Dps would be the best course of action cause dps is way easier to balance then a tank.
    For my part i feel it cheapens the fantasy of a Samurai if your hiding behind someone else to face the enemy head on. They were celebrated warriors of unparalleled skill, unflinching loyalty, and bound by honor and tradition but here DPS enthusiast would have them seen letting their bird TANK for them while jockeying for position behind the enemy like back stabbing cowards. i understand it's a game, but that's what makes it so confusing, you only want to look like the hero but not actually do the job. Samurai means to serve, not slayer, killer, executioner, butcher, rampage, reaper, reaver, or ravage... It's about the ideal isn't it? To stand before what others run from and challenge death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenerae View Post
    Tanking makes more sense since generally speaking Samurai in Square Enix games are focused around defending and counterattacking.

    It would be quite simple to differentiate it from DRK, too. DRK gets a couple of benefits for parrying, but it isn't focused around the idea of it.
    nin was quite a lot influenced by Naruto, and i'd guess SAM would be influenced by....anime, and SAM in anime are like...never....tanks...they quickly dismember stuff, in sprays of blood....so DPS k thnx, bye.
    Or it could be something like Parivir, and be melee-caster (except RDM is already doing that...sort of) or just use mechanic driven elemental attacks, like BLM, except they are still your typical str based melee dps (sort of how nin is, in that they are dex job, that use ninjutsu(geomancy?))
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    RNG based cooldowns are just bad for tanks. Let's hope you parry that physical tank buster; oh you didn't. You're tanking the floor now~ Maybe you can parry that magical attack better?
    Who said it had to be RNG?

    Just like PLD has a skill that guarantees a block, SAM could have a skill that guarantees a parry for the next recieved hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    SAM would be influenced by....anime, and SAM in anime are like...never....tanks...they quickly dismember stuff, in sprays of blood....so DPS k thnx, bye.
    Oh hey, it's not like a recent popular anime that's about an MMO had samurai in it...oh wait...

    Log Horizon had Samurai, and it's a tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Oh hey, it's not like a recent popular anime that's about an MMO had samurai in it...oh wait...

    Log Horizon had Samurai, and it's a tank.

    haven't seen it, but it doesn't look like tank - drg looks more like tank, in multiple gear-sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Oh hey, it's not like a recent popular anime that's about an MMO had samurai in it...oh wait...

    Log Horizon had Samurai, and it's a tank.

    I freaken love this aesthetic for SAM! Would much prefer Dual Wielding compared to 2 Handed.

    This anime made me obsessed with the possibility of how cool SAM would be in this game, especially if it was like Soujiro's style
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    Last edited by Katana190; 12-25-2016 at 06:21 AM.

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