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    Transient_Shadow's Avatar
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    Flutter Butter
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90

    Cleric Stance needs a buff

    at least in 50+ game play. I hope I'm not the only one who is getting increasingly frustrated at how I can't travel without my chocobo out Just to deal damage to enemies.

    My SCH literally has to throw everything he has at a basic lvl 57 enemy and it takes over twice the amount of time it would take a summoner
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Now, this is new.

    I love my CS, but no, it doesn't need to be more powerful. Even in regards to solo content, healers (especially SCH) are stupidly powerful, to the extent that people would probably complain if that content weren't so easy to begin with.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Character
    Keisero Starborn
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Cleric Stance is fine as it is. Summoner should deal much more damage than Scholar, because otherwise, why even bother playing a DPS job? Just focus on doing leveling dungeons, that's where Healers and Tanks get the most leveling exp.
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    Cait Zilla
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    My SCH literally has to throw everything he has at a basic lvl 57 enemy and it takes over twice the amount of time it would take a summoner
    O.o. Are you sure your SCH is equipped properly for his level. Also note that Heavensward open-world monsters are naturaly stronger than ARR ones, so it's normal to take longer when killing a Heavensward monster than an ARR monster (which incidentally makes soloing Heavensward Fates very tedious compared to soloing ARR FATEs).

    Besides that, I can't talk about SCH since it was automatically leveled when I leveled my SMN, but my WHM has no problem killing stuff with cleric stance. It's relatively fast enough.
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 12-25-2016 at 04:37 AM.

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    Assirra's Avatar
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    Character
    M'irau Rhya
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post

    My SCH literally has to throw everything he has at a basic lvl 57 enemy and it takes over twice the amount of time it would take a summoner
    Well that is how it is supposed to be.
    Cleric stance is a tool orginally dessigned for WHM so you could actually level as one from the start. SCH never actually needed it cause you could switch to smn but for some reason they still had the ability to cross class it.
    It was never designed so healers could do the same damage as dps while still healing with a switch of a button. Otherwise why would not just bring 6 healers and 2 tanks?
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    Character
    Lufie Newleaf
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Did you do job quests? SCH gets a potent Broil attack
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    SCH doesn't really have burst and relies more heavily on DoTs to damage. Our "burst" is

    Bio ->energy drain-> aero-> energy drain- > broil until dead. If both dots fall off, you might want to consider the full rotation of bio ii>miasma>bio>etc instead.

    Smn on the other hand has instant everything. Being able to kill at 50% the time and 1000% the survival rate is a pretty good deal.
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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Character
    Hayward Timberwolf
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    No. Sorry.

    Healers' first priority is keeping others going, not seeking to outparse actual DPS jobs. This obsession is but one reason for failed fights (see: A11, Prey mechanics on DPS, and failure of healers to offset the damage).
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    Player Cleftobismal's Avatar
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    Character
    Clefto Bismal
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Play whm or AST. They do more immediate damage than scholar and may be the alternate solution than what you're seeking. Arcanist wasn't designed to do immediate damage. Hence the way dreadwyrms stance was designed to build up stacks before being able to do that kind of burst. Broil in itself is a blessing. It was exactly what the class needed for dps. Asking for anything more is a bit unbalancing and kind of unfair over the other healers. And since WHM and AST would also benefit this buff you ask for through cleric stance. This would open up a can of worms.
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    Character
    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I think the only buff it needs is increase accuracy by 5%
    But since accuracy is being reworked on. Don't think we need to change CS.
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