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  1. #81
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    All I could recommend is to force them to join the "Hall of Intermediate" if its ever happen to be implented. They would need to solve some trials and read through their skill descriptions, check up rotations and guides via google or simply ask their FRIENDS.. So they would take like 30min to understand basic things in exchange for a whole month or even more of MSQ content.

    The Intermediate Hall needs to cover things like:
    • dots are always ticking even when you are not on the boss, thus they are important
    • dots tick always stronger than a buff is up (renewing before dots go off helps alot too)
    • learning which combo and rotation to start with
    • how to use an opener
    • how to manage your CD's (buffs, etc)
    • to learn about the aggro bar
    • etc

    though I have to admit a jump potion comes handy... people surely want to reach the new "jobs" (also HW ones) and start to learn/play them immediatly. And the new jobs will be pretty sure in the next new maps, which makes them unaccessable for every ARR or HW MSQ player.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 12-21-2016 at 08:01 AM.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    The Intermediate Hall needs to cover things like:
    • dots are always ticking even when you are not on the boss, thus they are important
    • dots tick always stronger than a buff is up (renewing before dots go off helps alot too)
    • learning which combo and rotation to start with
    • how to use an opener
    • how to manage your CD's (buffs, etc)
    • to learn about the aggro bar
    • etc
    Even as a "old player" I would not mind going into this hall for the CD management and opener^^"
    #worsttankever
    #worstDPSever
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  3. #83
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    You are leaving because of things that might, possibly, happen in the future? Idk, that seems kind of stupid. You expect a bad outcome, but you have no way of knowing it WILL actually be bad. How about just seeing how things will turn out before you ragequit pointlessly? There have been lots of things that looked horrible in the past and then it turned out they weren't so bad after all^^

    Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% against jump potions too and fear how they will influence both the playerbase and further "service" decisions SE makes, but we LITERALLY have no way of knowing how big that effect will actually be. Equally, we also know next to nothing about Stormblood yet, so judging if it will feel fresh or burn you out is not yet possible either.
    Your argument sounds like someone who never enters a relationship his entire life because there is a chance it might end in a break-up. Just enjoy it while it lasts, and maybe it will last until death (MMO shutdown). If it doesn't, well, at least you had a good time before it went bad
    But just running away before anything actually happens...
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  4. #84
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    Very well said, Sera.
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    I don't and will never understand the point of this threads. They scream "attention seeking" to me rather than a heart felt feeling.

    If you wanna go , go. you already gave your opinion on the matter why is it ok to create ANOTHER thread on the subject that is being discussed on another thread?
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  6. #86
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    Last edited by Mirch; 12-22-2016 at 09:32 PM. Reason: wrong button

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    Kian Men'thas
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    I like how people complain about jump potions crippling people's ability to play their class properly when many of us pick up a class in palace of the dead, start at level 60, and generally understand the rotation within 10 floors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothian View Post
    I like how people complain about jump potions crippling people's ability to play their class properly when many of us pick up a class in palace of the dead, start at level 60, and generally understand the rotation within 10 floors.
    And yet I seen as many people not get it, including outside the palace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    And yet I seen as many people not get it, including outside the palace.

    That's the thing though, if people want to learn, they learn. If people do not want to learn, they don't learn. People could level to 10 or 50 or 60 or 1000 and it still will not make a bit of damn difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    And yet I seen as many people not get it, including outside the palace.
    That's just because there's a lot of bad players. That'll be present regardless of the jump potions, or palace, or whatever's out there. haha
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