Where does SE lack when it comes to casual content, or do they lack at all?

[Zojha]

Hrm...it's difficult to tell, since I spend too much time playing the game to call myself "casual".

But overall, I'd say they're pretty good to go - most things in the game do not require premade scheduling and can be finished in a reasonable amount of time. There might be a lack of decent solo-challenges, since most of the more difficult content is group content and thus comes with scheduling issues (Unless you PUG, which nobody really wants for difficult content), but that aside? I dunno.

[bswpayton]

I don't think the game neglects casual content at all? Almost everything in the game is very casual.
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I guess I'm just curious as to is the lack of clearing because , the content is to challenging for the majority of the base are do they just not want to do it. Because some of my first friends in the game where like the really good players , cause I met them in the novice network and they had been playing a while and raiding and stuff. But as my friends list began to grow and I just got more socially into the game outside of content I noticed very different reactions to content ,and have seen very different reactions to it also.

Like you mention gaurda, Ive done that a few times now and I can honestly say that on the first try it has always ended in a whip, now granted Id say Ive never been in there and its gone down to the final seconds, but it didn't always go perfect. And this weekend I was doing shiva extreme and ramuh, when I went in ramuh a player mention that it was their sixth attempt and still hadnt cleared. I went in with a fc friend they where main tank I was off they said they couldnt stand the mechanics of the fight and eventually people left with no clear. With shiva extreme I would start off , and take her in sword form, but switch after add phase because ill be honest for me bow phase is just not something I wana deal with, but may have to eventaully, that being said almost every time the tanks I was with let bow phase hit the party and led to whips not calling them out simply because I didnt wana do that phase myself. But I said that to say this , that I'm really curious to know if the majority of the player base feels that the content is very easy, even tho I keep hearing that it is I admit I havent had time to explore every interaction in the game. But sometimes when I even wana do the harder content its like pulling teeth to get friends to even try it with me. Are its always lets unsync an extreme primal, nobody but my well rounded friends would prob even do Alexander with me and im sure they are in a static.

[Aramina]

I guess I'm just curious as to is the lack of clearing because , the content is to challenging for the majority of the base are do they just not want to do it.

No one can really speak as to why the playerbase isn't doing it. I have not done any of the extremes or raids (either 8 or 24 man) because I have, so far, not felt compelled to do so. It's not because I fear it is too hard, I raided Heroic/Mythic (Savage equivalent) in WoW for 6+ years so I am enjoying a game where there is plenty for me to do that is not the same thing I have done for many years.

[Jeykama]

Can't say this game really lacks for casual content. There's crafting, gathering, fishing, 24M raids, dungeons, primals, alexander, PotD, Gold Saucer, PvP, levelling alt jobs, collectible things like sightseeing/minions/mounts/orchestrion rolls, glamours?

It's just that any one player probably won't like most of these things, so they think there is a dearth somewhere.

They only add harder content every 6 months (aside from PotD200); everything else in every patch is for casuals.

[bswpayton]

No one can really speak as to why the playerbase isn't

That's what I was sayin their arent many reasons given but , when it comes to dev dollars Im not sayin get rid of raids like I mention I would like to do them myself also. But what I was wanting to know if they even took half the budget they may use for raids on other aspects of the game that people tend to enjoy more clearly just based on participation numbers, what are somethings they could do to make the game even better for casuals. Because who knows how much dev dollars go into raiding Im sure nobody does but Im sure its not cheap , so that being said thats 10 percent of your game so are there things that the other 90 percent want improvements on. I guess what Im sayin can they make good raids without it being balanced, like puttin even more money into more casual content that the majority of the player base plays, and less into raiding but still satisfy the raiders in the game.

[Deathgiver]

so that being said thats 10 percent of your game so are there things that the other 90 percent want improvements on.

You're looking at final tier clear rates, not participation... based on the unofficial census, 23% of players are at the very least going in and getting clears on a9s, that's definitely not an insignificant amount of the player base. That's not even counting players who haven't cleared, haven't entered but are planning to, etc. That's a pretty healthy chunk of the player base.

[JunseiKei]

There's no lacking in casual content. The only "hardcore" content are savage raids. "Midcore" content is arguably normal mode of the raid tier and extreme primals. Everything else is pretty "casual."

[Bourne_Endeavor]

There's no lacking in casual content. The only "hardcore" content are savage raids. "Midcore" content is arguably normal mode of the raid tier and extreme primals. Everything else is pretty "casual."

I wouldn't even call those Midcore. Sophia normal is a complete joke and The Creator posed only the smallest bit of a challenge week one because people didn't have the best gear yet. At this point, it becomes more a game at just how many mechanics you can blow passed unless they're scripted. Honestly, I feel that is among XIV's biggest issues-- and why sub decline has been quite noticeable. There just isn't enough to do for people above the casual play style.

[Sunako]

I would say alex Gordias was hardcore especially for eu players without eu servers. Now there is not anything else than casual content and current savage is more like midcore content than hardcore.

[Dzian]

I guess I'm just curious as to is the lack of clearing because , the content is to challenging for the majority of the base are do they just not want to do it..

For many players it's just not worth doing the harder content. the rewards just aren't worth it. there's always a better item around the corner that's 100 times easier to get.

Go back a patch for example. with the midas savage raids. the rewards there were 240 gear items. the very day the 3.4 patch landed players could get 250 crafted items that were better with very little effort.
so the 240 items players got from clearing midas savage instantly made worthless. and it's that that puts so many people off. it's just not worthwhile to do it.

even the challenge isn't lasting cos they'll add echo and as players gear increases it becomes easier and easier, even more so with 4.0 around the corner. this you can see with coil. it was pretty challenging but now at a point where most of it can be done with 3 people so even the achievements and titles are worthless.

its not so much lack of skill its just theres no reason or motivation to do so,.

everything you do in one patch means nothing the next.. the fact I cleared coil in arr for example providesno benefit at all if I were to enter savage.
the fact I've cleared all ex primals to date will mean nothing when the next one comes along..