Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Lambdafish]

I personally prefer having a game kept alive by "lazy" new players, than a dying game because nobody wants to join.

Whats your evidence that the game is dying? Subs went up drastically on HW launch, and go up and down naturally over the course of the expansion. When a patch hits, subs peak then decline, with each patch bringing in less and less people (because patch content is the same stuff), then the expansion brings in another drastic wave of subs (perhaps even higher than HW), and the cycle starts again. Level potions don't fix this problem, a smooth and positive reception to the expansion from the start does, which HW didn't have (and it lost a good number of subs during the dark days of 3.1).

[Lyraele]

Oh man, this is totally going to be a thing now. "You're bad at your class! You must have used a boost potion!"

That was a thing in EverQuest. Bad players were accused of having bought their character on eBay.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Oh man, this is totally going to be a thing now. "You're bad at your class! You must have used a boost potion!"

More like people finding more excuses to kick people now. As someone else said, why is it that the potions are causing a riot now and not other stuff? Were people just waiting for the perfect excuse to rage quit?

[Imoen]

More like people finding more excuses to kick people now. As someone else said, why is it that the potions are causing a riot now and not other stuff? Were people just waiting for the perfect excuse to rage quit?

What? People are always rioting about stuff here... lol The story has been brought up in the past, this isn't new, among other things. So I'm not sure where that person got that idea. lol

[Lambdafish]

Were people just waiting for the perfect excuse to rage quit?

I like to think of it more as a final straw thing... People complained about the cash shop, people complained about things being dumbed down and nerfed, people complained about catering to the lowest common denominator, and finally after everything that they have put up with, the game is seemingly becoming pay-to-win (Yoshi P didn't even counter that point in the main post, he just said "we want feedback"), it's not an excuse, it's an exhausting battle that people are fed up with.

[Imoen]

it's not an excuse, it's an exhausting battle that people are fed up with.

Ya, that about sums it up pretty well. lol Been a long ride with this game.

[Nestama]

There are players who are bad at their jobs pre-potion now.....patches back. I still ask myself what is the point of the complaints from people?

Quite recently I had a rather bad DRK in Pharos Sirius HM (one bad tank out of... I believe five DF runs that day). Was working on getting lore for my alt and this tank was just incapable of holding hate on multiple mobs. My i172 (at the time) BLM was taking hate from what I guess was an i220+ tank who had Parry and Earth Resist materia melded.

Let's just pretend for a moment that these potions were live now in their current iteration, what happens? Some new player joins the game, drops a ton of money and starts at level 50 with some 130 gear..

I have a feeling it won't even be i130 gear. When you go through the 2.1-2.55 storyline, at some point you start getting the old i110 Soldiery gear, weapon included. If you wanted Poetic gear, you still needed to spend Poetic tomes.

[Reinha]

I've not read this 78 page thread in it's entirety so I don't know if this has been mentioned but... what is this?

An item that worth roughly 300,000 gil that cannot be traded will be distributed as funds for equipment.

Is it a token for non-tradeable gear (like silver chocobo feathers) or is it a token to obtain 300,000 gil? If it's a token for non-tradeable gear, how did they determine its gil value?

[Nyghtmarerobu]

I see people keep throwing this "Pay-to-win" stuff around, and I think that people are thinking that the people are getting any kind of real advantage out of buying a potion. Just for the sake of my point...

Pay-to-Win : Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.

With this in mind, I don't see the game being unbalanced in anyway. They are skipping old content to get closer to the new content. Getting closer to the end doesn't give them any sort of advantage. It just means that they will have to spend less time getting there. Everyone is going to the same goal, so why does it matter how fast it takes you to get there?

The only REAL complaint that I have seen against these potions that has any real weight, is that if they don't do something to fix the MSQ for future expansions, these potions will end up becoming mandatory for people trying to actually get somewhere in the game without having to go back through years worth of old content no one will remember how to do in 5 years...

[Imoen]

I've not read this 78 page thread in it's entirety so I don't know if this has been mentioned but... what is this?



Is it a token for non-tradeable gear (like silver chocobo feathers) or is it a token to obtain 300,000 gil?

Sounds more like a voucher for gear. Seems like they are trying to get around the fact that gil sellers will have access to this same potion, so they don't want to give straight up gil.

Everyone is going to the same goal, so why does it matter how fast it takes you to get there?

It doesn't, but its crappy that one person got to pay for it, and another that didn't have money gets screwed to have to slog through the unfixed problems with the MSQ while other dude burns ahead. Honestly, I think they should hand one of these out for free to new players if they are going to do this. (at least for the msq) Not a fan of the whole idea, but, if they are going to do it, id rather they took this route.

2.0 era quests are a real blocker, you hit post 50 before you even get to the gates of HW, i think my alt is like 52, and I havn't even got to HW yet. So the guy that bought the potion really is getting a pretty large advantage, in almost ever aspect, drops, access to gear, money making opportunities etc...