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  1. #3401
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    Apeiron's Avatar
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    Apeiron Kinglight
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I remember this ridiculous thread that started shortly after AST was introduced, trying to argue that there could be a good reason for an AST to use Noct with a SCH regardless of the conflict between Nocturnal Field and Galvanize effects.

    It depresses me that, a year or so later, we still run into people in-game who don't get it. No, there is no such thing as a "Noct AST" or a "Diurnal AST"; if someone can't be bothered to learn and apply both sects correctly, that just makes them a dumb-AST.
    Going out on a limb and guessing you mean my theory thread.
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  2. #3402
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeiron View Post
    Going out on a limb and guessing you mean my theory thread.
    I think it was.

    I don't mean to try to shame you for having put the question out there, but I do remember the thread getting way out of control even after it seemed fairly obvious that there wasn't a good case for Noct+SCH ever being an optimal choice.
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  3. #3403
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    Apeiron Kinglight
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    It's nothing to worry about. o7
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  4. #3404
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    Valentine-R's Avatar
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    Revolver Ocelot
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    This one isn't own healing horror story, but rather me as dps and my healer. As a white mage on my alt, I can understand completely how stressful it must have been.

    So here's how the party was and the dungeon. Copperbell Mines: Marauder Tank, Scholar healer, BLM and NIN as dps.

    We got to the part with the Slime, and it was horrible. We entered the cut off zone after a dispute between the healer and ninja. Just the scholar asking for the ninja to do something, which the ninja took offense to.

    The scholar told us he needed to get his daughter some food, and it would be really quick. When he announced he was going afk, a few minutes afterwards the marauder said "ok" and ran ahead and began the fight (which did no damage). The ninja ran off to the corner of the room and didn't contribute at all. The marauder fainted and told the scholar they sucked. So now it was me, the BLM, against a complete slime without a healer. The ninja emote spammed /laugh and I was struggling to live. Before my hp dropped, the scholar came back and rushed into action. He healed me, but it was one BLM versus a slime. My hp took serious damage because blm squishy. But I didn't die, and I had to tank and dps, due to the scholar generating some aggro and getting chased. It was very stressful, more so for the scholar.

    It was a stressful run, in general actually.
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  5. #3405
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valentine-R View Post
    Copperbell Mines: Marauder Tank, Scholar healer, BLM and NIN as dps.

    We got to the part with the Slime, and it was horrible. and I had to tank and dps, due to the scholar generating some aggro and getting chased. It was very stressful, more so for the scholar.
    I recently had a similar experience as monk but the healer and tank both died on the slime leaving just me and a thm. I also kept pulling aggro from the tank on the bosses.
    The healer can tank the slime, by the way. It does very little damage.

    My own recent semi-horror stories are:

    1. Accidentally queueing for A11 as ast instead of smn. I felt I was the nightmare there as I had never healed it before. I felt really bad when one of the dps died during an Optical Sight. I didn't get any loot so I went in again as smn. The healers that time made me feel better about my own performance! At one point it was just the tanks and I as I kept having to raise both healers. We needed to use the healer lb3 to not wipe.

    2. World Of Darkness as smn. The other 7 people in the party were new. I think a good bit of the other 16 people were also new. I think the horror story was mainly for the rest of the party as one of the other tanks kept pulling while we were explaining mechanics. For me it was just stressful continually raising while trying to explain what was killing people, dodge mechanics myself, and occasionally actually dps. Got all 7 comms though.

    3. Any of the Crystal Tower dungeons with people who ignore mechanics, especially tanks ignoring adds or pulling while we are explaining things. I've been re-running them all every week for aether oil.
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  6. #3406
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    queenevilfluffy's Avatar
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    Alina Larna
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Does it count if I am playing BLM and forced to heal because the healer is t paying attention and dying all the time.
    Because I can't heal much. That should not have happened, pay attention to thing new healers.
    And people who are playing healing "for funsies" at least learn what you are doing. Assize is probably not a skill you have to use on every single pull when the tank is the only one taking damage.
    Medica is not your main healing skill.
    I just had a bad time many times in roulette today.
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  7. #3407
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by queenevilfluffy View Post
    Assize is probably not a skill you have to use on every single pull when the tank is the only one taking damage.
    Assize absolutely is a skill you should use as often as possible to recover MP and add to your DPS.
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  8. #3408
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    KeiranOlive's Avatar
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    Keicha Olive
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by queenevilfluffy View Post
    And people who are playing healing "for funsies" at least learn what you are doing. Assize is probably not a skill you have to use on every single pull when the tank is the only one taking damage.
    Actually, Assize is more often used as an instant 300 potency attack in between holy spam, as well as the 10% MP refresh. I almost always use it for dps rather than as an actual heal. If you don't need the extra healing (which you shouldn't when the tank is the only one taking damage) then it should be used often to boost dps.

    Edit: Ah Taika beat me to it.
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  9. #3409
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    Alina Larna
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    Gilgamesh
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    It was being used at the start of the pulls there was no holy spam. Like after Regen was a assize. The pull had barely begun there was little to no mp being tossed out.
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  10. #3410
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by queenevilfluffy View Post
    It was being used at the start of the pulls there was no holy spam. Like after Regen was a assize. The pull had barely begun there was little to no mp being tossed out.
    You're right that it's wasteful to blow Assize like that, but in dungeons it doesn't really matter since MP shouldn't be an issue.
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