Mantra is such a weird utility tool...

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I suppose it has it's uses.
It just seems so weak compared to what other melee can offer. I mean, since it's something directly aimed towards helping healers, maybe it could have a mp restoration effect too?
Or even a light mitigation effect.

It just feels like extremely situational utility like this is the reason Monk is so currently looked down on.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

It just feels like extremely situational utility like this is the reason Monk is so currently looked down on.

Yet exactly this utility, as well as DK's mitigation effect, made MNK effectively mandatory for the entirety of the 2.X series, even when there were 3 melee. There's nothing wrong with different jobs having different opportunities to shine. Honestly, I'd say such a state should actually be considered requisite in order for the game to be fun, rather than simply stagnate.

Honestly, I really don't understand why people be bashing defensive cd's like Mantra lately. A big part of why MCH is one of my mains is because of Dis/RM. I love the fact that I can assist in ways other than just with WF burst + Hyper charge. I'd actually like for defensive assist cd's to become more prominent and useful!

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Honestly, I really don't understand why people be bashing defensive cd's like Mantra lately. A big part of why MCH is one of my mains is because of Dis/RM. I love the fact that I can assist in ways other than just with WF burst + Hyper charge. I'd actually like for defensive assist cd's to become more prominent and useful!

I do too!
But the way this game plays, it comes off as useless. Of course, when raids deal a lot more damage it'll be better, but right now it's just "more damage more damage!".

[shweppers]

A great Monk utility skill would be a some kind of "Inspire" ability which would be a small AOE TP restore.

[Neela]

I do too!
But the way this game plays, it comes off as useless. Of course, when raids deal a lot more damage it'll be better, but right now it's just "more damage more damage!".

that reminds me of another thread where someone said freeze aoe on blm is useless... people just have to realize that several skills are just useful in individual situations like freeze in pvp or mantra in raiding. if you can't find a proper usage of one of your toolkit/skills in pve - think out of the box maybe you'll find the answer there ^^

[cynical_baby]

Akh Morn is an example for use of this. Especially with one healer or if more ppl are dead already. It can safe a run.

[Jukebox12]

Mantra even un traited can help if your running drg nin or running mnk nin or mnk drg. That 5% may seem underestimated but it does help alot

[Rhaja]

Pop it pre-pull to help the sch fish for better adlo's to deploy?

[Laurinah]

Was maining SCH to start patch, then switched to monk and I feel there are a lot of uses for Mantra in this raid tier:

A9S: During both Faust and Faust Z, prior to acid rains or Faust AoE
A10S: Any time AoE goes out as the party is usually stacked
A11S: Prior to Eternal Darkness, back to back whirlwinds, multi-person photons
A12S: Prior to Holy or any split damage mechanics, during first set of adds prior to wings

Monk Mantra is also very powerful when paired with any AoE HoTs

[Neela]

Was maining SCH to start patch, then switched to monk and I feel there are a lot of uses for Mantra in this raid tier:

A9S: During both Faust and Faust Z, prior to acid rains or Faust AoE
A10S: Any time AoE goes out as the party is usually stacked
A11S: Prior to Eternal Darkness, back to back whirlwinds, multi-person photons
A12S: Prior to Holy or any split damage mechanics, during first set of adds prior to wings

Monk Mantra is also very powerful when paired with any AoE HoTs

i think nobody questioned the use of mantra in raids. ^^