How About An "Incognito" Player Status?

[SpiritMuse]

Ehm this is false people can ask me stuff in that time Im already somewhere else.

That's not the point though, it doesn't matter that they can still contact you after you've left the area. The point is how they come about your name. In this case it's by seeing you "in person", rather than player searching you, and hiding yourself from player search won't interfere with that.

[TiaHariberux3]

That's not the point though, it doesn't matter that they can still contact you after you've left the area. The point is how they come about your name. In this case it's by seeing you "in person", rather than player searching you, and hiding yourself from player search won't interfere with that.

You may want to read the whole 6pages where OP complained about ppl who send him/her a /tell (real players) before posting smth. My point is you don't need the player search to make a bot that send out /tells to random ppl (hint use lodestone data etc.). Besides that RMT tells are very rare in general on gilgamesh even basically non existed. But oh well since no one can find smth besides the "rmt" excuse this is getting boring. I wonder if u even read all pages.

[Magic-Mal]

You may want to read the whole 6pages where OP complained about ppl who send him/her a /tell (real players) before posting smth. My point is you don't need the player search to make a bot that send out /tells to random ppl (hint use lodestone data etc.). Besides that RMT tells are very rare in general on gilgamesh even basically non existed. But oh well since no one can find smth besides the "rmt" excuse this is getting boring. I wonder if u even read all pages.

Tia if it helps in anyway, in the past there was a guy I had to cut off because he was pushing and getting way out of hand and I had already been with my current partner. So this person has "visited" me.. alot. And it's pretty annoying. Yet sadly he isn't doing anything to ban him for other than be around. And a blacklist wont fix it. We don't want him near our FC. We don't want him near us.

[TiaHariberux3]

Tia if it helps in anyway, in the past there was a guy I had to cut off because he was pushing and getting way out of hand and I had already been with my current partner. So this person has "visited" me.. alot. And it's pretty annoying. Yet sadly he isn't doing anything to ban him for other than be around. And a blacklist wont fix it. We don't want him near our FC. We don't want him near us.

Following/visiting someone multiple times is harassment which can result in a ban. Check the pic of my ban few pages ago. You don't have to troll or anything simply following etc. is enough.

[SpiritMuse]

You may want to read the whole 6pages where OP complained about ppl who send him/her a /tell (real players) before posting smth. My point is you don't need the player search to make a bot that send out /tells to random ppl (hint use lodestone data etc.). Besides that RMT tells are very rare in general on gilgamesh even basically non existed. But oh well since no one can find smth besides the "rmt" excuse this is getting boring. I wonder if u even read all pages.

I did read the whole 6 pages and I can honestly say I have no idea what your arguments are beyond "there are already other, more cumbersome ways to deal with harassment after the fact so why implement a measure to prevent it ever happening in the first place", which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Also, that there's little RMT on Greg doesn't mean a thing. Greg is not all servers.

[TiaHariberux3]

I did read the whole 6 pages and I can honestly say I have no idea what your arguments are beyond "there are already other, more cumbersome ways to deal with harassment after the fact so why implement a measure to prevent it ever happening in the first place", which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Also, that there's little RMT on Greg doesn't mean a thing. Greg is not all servers.

I have alts pretty much on every EU and NA server which I said before so I didnt talked about only gilga.Further more you wont prevent harassment or RMT since it will always exist. I rather use 2 clicks to report RMT bots so they and all of the rmt chars connected to this gets banned instead of just leaving them there getting more and more. I asked you if you read the whole thread because you clearly havent read that OP doesnt really want the exact same thing some ppl suggest here. Making players on player search invisible is different to "This game doesnt allow me to prevent ppl talking to me in the first place"

? PS4 and PS3 PSNs have many privacy settings to prevent people from getting to you. Including an "Incognito" mode. I get what you're saying, but options like these are made because of trolling, spam etc.

Shows how OP is exaggerating.

And yes, there are people who try to follow me around or contact me through tells randomly.

Shows that OP doesnt want to get tells from anyone not only want to use it against RMT and also shows that this is not only about the player search. So please can everyone stop bringing up that argument that its only about player search to prevent rmt.

Sure you can blacklist. But did blacklist ever fix anything? Does reporting ever fix anything nowadays? .

Shows how wrong the person is because I already proved that simply following someone results in a ban.

While for different reasons, I would love to be incognito at times when I maybe don't have much time to play and would like to just log on, get things done, then log out. Nothing against my friends at all of course, but being a very sociable person has its own complications at times.

Usual person who agree to OP but doesnt realise that you can just log in and do stuff and log out without talking already etc. (true friends understand that). Also I have the right as fc master to know who is on in my fc like srsly.

I've been asking for a privacy mode for a while now. It's a little creepy that strangers can look at who you are and what you're doing without any established relationship (friends, members of the same FC or Linkshell, etc).

Its not creepy at all knowing stuff like char appearance/ingame name etc. isnt creepy at all people still dont know who you are + they can see that ingame too.

Tia I really don't understand why you're fighting this so hard. You're literally the only person in this thread that's against it and I cant understand your arguments enough to figure out why.

I know which bots you mean but RMT will always find a way. The problem isnt the player search its the rmt bots and the rare ppl who harass others. Just because you take someones gun away doesnt mean he cant kill someone. You have to get rid of the core problem not the way ppl use because they can simply find a new way to reach their goals.

You are arguing something at least 8 people on here are for. You are clearly outnumbered

Argument which should prove me wrong I guess? lol

Every time someone is reported, that means someone has to look over it, even at least just read it to determine if it's worth looking into.

While you can already turn off /tell option it will force most ppl out of the busy status sooner or later so its fine again.

Trolls gonna troll.

Someone who cant find a better argument.

Ignore it?: Shouldn't have to.
Blacklist?: Shouldn't have to. Easily prevented if they can't get to you in the first place.
Report?: Too much hassle. Send ticket. Wait for response. And wait for action. And pray for results.
/Busy?: Shouldn't have to cut off all communication.

This thread in a nutshell. Lazy ppl everywhere. If it bothers someone so much (any reason?) then use the two fast tools you have which is ignoring/blacklist thats why we have it. It bothers you extremely? Report. In the end since ppl always find a way these options are the best to prevent such stuff in future.

So dont think arguments on this thread are much better than my own.

[Magic-Mal]

Shows how OP is exaggerating.

Whhaaaat? What do you think privacy options are for? For protection and for people who don't want to be bothered. It's a really basic feature.

Shows that OP doesnt want to get tells from anyone not only want to use it against RMT and also shows that this is not only about the player search. So please can everyone stop bringing up that argument that its only about player search to prevent rmt.

Yes it is about player search? How else could they know what zone I'm in to look? I clearly stated that all features and communication would be active but in proximity only. Not by search if incognito is enabled.

Shows how wrong the person is because I already proved that simply following someone results in a ban.

Okay. I was wrong about the ban. No need to harp on it.

This thread in a nutshell. Lazy ppl everywhere. If it bothers someone so much (any reason?) then use the two fast tools you have which is ignoring/blacklist thats why we have it. It bothers you extremely? Report. In the end since ppl always find a way these options are the best to prevent such stuff in future.

Maybe I'd rather prevent an attack before taking action to deal with it? Let me give you more examples because you seem to not know what prevention/protection is.

-You gets ads on your computer. Do you ignore them or report them? Or get an ad blocker?

-You see a bug in your home. Do you ignore them and wait to be infested, THEN call the exterminator? Or do you kill it, then protect yourself from future infestations?

-You've had a fire in your house. Do you wait until you're house is blazing to call 911 or get a fire detector or fire extinguisher to warn you? Do you not do things that can cause a fire?

-Mosquitoes bite you. Do you get bitten everytime then put on skin cream to treat the bite? Or wear repellent?

-You have a robbery because your door wasn't safe enough. Do you get robbed again then call 911? Or get BETTER security so you don't get robbed?

Like...

Reporting someone should be the last resort. The whole point of it is to not be a victim already then deal with it. Being a victim can simply mean being a victim of people(friends, FC members, etc) trying to talk to you too. When you want to be alone.

[TiaHariberux3]

-Mosquitoes bite you. Do you get bitten everytime then put on skin cream to treat the bite? ?

Does it prevent u from being bitten again? etc.

You should compare it to smth more similiar.

Can you prevent being insulted in the first place? etc smth like that for example

I used the word exaggerating because you compared the privacy settings of your psn account which contains your rl informations to ingame informations. A stalker can join linkshells (hunt ls etc.) which u are in to see the zone, he could make a alt to join your fc, a friend of the stalker shares a ls with u or saw u ingame. Just few examples how ppl can stalk even without using player search. Hell they can even ask in the areas if someone saw u. You shouldnt be forced into a status because of such people get rid of the complete problem and get them banned etc. This will prevent said stalker to stalk you or other players in future.

[Magic-Mal]

Does it prevent u from being bitten again?

You should compare it to smth more similiar.

A stalker can join linkshells (hunt ls etc)which u are in to see the zone, he could make a alt to join your fc, a friend of the stalker shares a ls with u or saw u ingame. Just few examples how ppl can stalk even without using player search. Hell they can even ask in the areas if someone saw u. You shouldnt be forced into a status because of such people get rid of the complete problem and get them banned etc. This will prevent said stalker to stalk you or other players in future.

It's the same concept. Prevention.

You have a stalker and don't want him/her to join? Tell the LS leader. Prevention.

A stalker makes an alt to try and get in the FC? Have controlled recruitment. Prevention.

As a matter of fact my FC already has controlled recruitment due other female members being messed with by guys(they were kicked). We have not gotten a creep since

[Bloody]

Does it prevent u from being bitten again? etc.

You should compare it to smth more similiar.

Can you prevent being insulted in the first place? etc smth like that for example I used the word exaggerating because you compared the privacy settings of your psn account which contains your rl informations to ingame informations. A stalker can join linkshells (hunt ls etc.) which u are in to see the zone, he could make a alt to join your fc, a friend of the stalker shares a ls with u or saw u ingame. Just few examples how ppl can stalk even without using player search. Hell they can even ask in the areas if someone saw u. You shouldnt be forced into a status because of such people get rid of the complete problem and get them banned etc. This will prevent said stalker to stalk you or other players in future.

My biggest problem with your main argument in this thread is that it is basically saying "You can't prevent everything so why bother?"

There is no such thing as perfection, but it doesn't stop people from striving for it. There will be no perfect protection against harassment or RMT, but when there is something you can do to mitigate it, and it is potentially quite feasible, there is no reason not to do it. Like you, I don't agree with all of the suggestions regarding an incognito mode brought up in this discussion, but clearly there is a difference in opinion as to worthwhile actions.

On your second point in the post I quoted, I definitely agree that people shouldn't be forced into a status to avoid harassment, and reporting it will ultimately be a better solution. However, an incognito mode that reduces the ability of harassers to reach you is still a useful tool as it creates more space between the offender(s) and the victim(s). Incognito can help victims avoid offenders while GMs handle the situation (which is sometimes necessary, I've heard of people harassing right up to the moment of ban before, sadly).

In regards to your aggressiveness, I would say that the tone your writing projects comes off as very dismissive of other opinions, which generates negative responses and is why you are being "aggressive" in that sense. It isn't as straightforward as aggression (which is generally quite clear).