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  1. #3391
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    VanillaWafer's Avatar
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    Ren Nilla
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    That's a rather... nightmarish story for sure. Sounds like a triggered child.

    Just going to say. If you said "I'm going to destroy you" to me I would have laughed. I don't see that kind of statement as a real serious one. The reaction you received is ridiculous.
    See, you and I would have been great pals if we healed together. We probably wouldn't have too much a problem even if you were in Nocturnal Sect. I'd still be frustrated, but forgiving. :v
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  2. #3392
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Just the other day I did A12N as SCH and got paired with an AST who asked me before the start, "You don't mind if I go Noct, do you?"

    Of course my reply was "Please don't." Then he/she "forgot" to switch to Diurnal before the tank pulled.

    In this case everyone lived happily ever after, but I was annoyed by the sheer stupidity. To be fair, this AST did not overwrite my shields, but on the other hand, why are you going Noct if not to use your shielding? The 10% potency buff is nice and all, but the regen effect on Diurnal Aspected heals is a great complement to a co-healer's mitigation.

    I can't help but think that the reason people pull stuff like this is the same reason behind pets on sic and indiscriminate use of knockback abilities; their playstyle choices automatically trump what common sense would suggest to be best for the group.
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  3. #3393
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    But Cynfael. What you and VanillaWafer (great name btw) don't understand is that those AST are the main character of FFXIV! We're all just NPCs.
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  4. #3394
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    But Cynfael. What you and VanillaWafer (great name btw) don't understand is that those AST are the main character of FFXIV! We're all just NPCs.
    That's okay; AST is just making up for having been the healer we all forgot for the first part of 3.x, and some of the AST mains have become a little drunk with power :P
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  5. #3395
    Player Cleftobismal's Avatar
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    Clefto Bismal
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    The 10% is to make the shields relevant. . . Just using that stance for the heal boost without the shields is not. . . .
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  6. #3396
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    The 10% is to make the shields relevant. . . Just using that stance for the heal boost without the shields is not. . . .
    I remember this ridiculous thread that started shortly after AST was introduced, trying to argue that there could be a good reason for an AST to use Noct with a SCH regardless of the conflict between Nocturnal Field and Galvanize effects.

    It depresses me that, a year or so later, we still run into people in-game who don't get it. No, there is no such thing as a "Noct AST" or a "Diurnal AST"; if someone can't be bothered to learn and apply both sects correctly, that just makes them a dumb-AST.
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  7. #3397
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    Laurima's Avatar
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    Mizu Ka
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    bothersome co healer? wait for them to die and do the fight solo while not raising citing MP preservation
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  8. #3398
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Yeah, my alt is a SCH-only and I have gotten some of those "Noct-only" ASTs. I asked one in Raid Finder Sophia Ex to change to Diurnal before the pull and they flat out said no. Even overrode my Crit-Spread Adlo on the pull too, so of course we got the knock back. I decided I'm not even going to argue this point anymore.

    Okay, you can do all the shielding/healing then, of course they struggled, didn't even use Synastry once either. I saw a few Disables, so they had some competency. Never mind they did zero damage, I raised them last over a DPS, cause I can solo heal just fine. I don't mind if you don't want to do damage, but if you don't want to play the job I really like correctly, then I'll just do the work myself.
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  9. #3399
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    I joined a nid pf as ast. checked the other healer, they were whm, so I went noct. when we actually go in, they've changed to sch and I didn't notice lol

    all worked out tho, as could've been predicted, being a pf, they were terrible and died to first charge, and each one there after. being noct I could solo heal to clear even with them dead on the floor almost the entire time, as I gave up rezzing them after the third time
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  10. #3400
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    VanillaWafer's Avatar
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    Ren Nilla
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 100
    @technole and Cynfael - Most likely, you may never see these ASTs again. Which is all well and good. However, just imagine dealing with them on a daily basis, outside of combat, even though you have them blocked.

    The entire time the AST was with the FC I'm in, she tried to get my attention. My friends kept poking me about it, jokingly saying on Discord, "Oh, your best friend said hi, Ren," Or "Ren, she keeps trying to talk to you," and etc. It doesn't really bother me, but it's a bit awkward to see her kissing up to me of all people. Once again, I don't do anything spectacular to deserve this treatment.

    The fact that I promised not to utter a peep made the situation worse, because I really wanted to let her have it. But, I respect my FC too much to enable her behavior by flat out telling her she was taking this too far to get the wrong attention out of me.

    I just hope my story serves as a cautionary tale of what not to do in any MMORPG. Nobody deserves that.

    I don't pay $15/month to be wrapped up in drama or give people a hard time, so much that it affects their play time. I don't ask for much, just let me have my healing kit.
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    Last edited by VanillaWafer; 12-08-2016 at 06:02 AM.

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