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    All of them. The best Mt is a meta made by raiders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    All of them. The best Mt is a meta made by raiders.
    This is like saying that gravity is a meta made by Newton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    This is like saying that gravity is a meta made by Newton.
    LOL. Gravity is just a meta made by Newton. Before him it was Aristotle who believed everything was fixed. Then it was Newton and gravity(force pulls mass towards mass). Einstein's General Relativity theory says that there is no force called gravity — that there is a warping of spacetime created by the presence of mass, and that objects are just led through the path of least resistance through this warped spacetime. So um you just referenced an old Meta made by some of the old elite raiders, sorry Brah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RizenSaga View Post
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    I meant saying that best composition is just a meta made by raiders is pointless, since that's a meta for a good reason (potentially the most optimal for the raid tier) and that it changes over time. If the person I quoted thought that there was no such thing as best MT or best composition in a raid tier then he's just being delusional.

    A bit off topic but cmiiw isn't gravity defined as the effect caused by spacetime curvature? As in it's not a force anymore but that's still called gravity. I'm bad at physics lmao.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madepossible View Post
    Interesting how NA EU is the opposite of jp standards. War can still put out high damage if it is the Main Tank by stance dancing, while Paladin can go in sword oath and utilize it's max dps. In my opinion War should always be MT and DRK/PLD Off tank.
    Eh no even in jp pugs usually pld/drk pulls and tanks the boss most of the time unless there's a forced tank swap. If you're talking about statics most of the optimized runs have wars pull followed by a tank swap with both tanks out of tank stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    I meant saying that best composition is just a meta made by raiders is pointless, since that's a meta for a good reason (potentially the most optimal for the raid tier) and that it changes over time. If the person I quoted thought that there was no such thing as best MT or best composition in a raid tier then he's just being delusional.

    A bit off topic but cmiiw isn't gravity defined as the effect caused by spacetime curvature? As in it's not a force anymore but that's still called gravity. I'm bad at physics lmao.

    I know what you meant and 100% agree with your opinion.
    Yeah you are right on the definition, but the current definition of gravity was made by Newton then changed to fit Einsteins Theory of relativity. Gravity doesn't change; it's what it is, but the word- the definition did. So Einstein literally shattered Newtons definition (Meta) just as Newton shattered Aristotle's beliefs.

    I know I was being difficult and using the definition and how it changed and not at all how you meant it. I love Irony and even though I know what you meant I couldn't resist because most people just take something clever like what you said and run with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RizenSaga View Post
    I know what you meant and 100% agree with your opinion.
    Yeah you are right on the definition, but the current definition of gravity was made by Newton then changed to fit Einsteins Theory of relativity. Gravity doesn't change; it's what it is, but the word- the definition did. So Einstein literally shattered Newtons definition (Meta) just as Newton shattered Aristotle's beliefs.

    I know I was being difficult and using the definition and how it changed and not at all how you meant it. I love Irony and even though I know what you meant I couldn't resist because most people just take something clever like what you said and run with it.
    I was sorta trying to imply that metas may change over time (new raid tiers, job changes etc) so I picked Newton as an example. Welp thanks for the correction, you learn something new everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    All of them. The best Mt is a meta made by raiders.
    This! This right here!
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