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  1. #141
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    All I said it those who work for it can enjoy the rewards such as those who raid, while those who can not have to wait till they can basically face roll it when no one longer cares except for glamour, what is a mount other than a glamour piece? Personally I don't care about it either way yet I know people would still want it.
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    All I said it those who work for it can enjoy the rewards such as those who raid, while those who can not have to wait till they can basically face roll it when no one longer cares except for glamour, what is a mount other than a glamour piece? Personally I don't care about it either way yet I know people would still want it.
    I think this is like bad game design, not only this dimishes the achivements of the previous players, why is anyone entitled to every reward in the game if the isnt good enough? Its important that there are rewards which are only obtainalbe for a specific task in a specific time. FF XIV has a special issue with this

    Also glamouristheendgame# more people care then you think i belive.
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  3. #143
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    I think this is like bad game design, not only this dimishes the achivements of the previous players, why is anyone entitled to every reward in the game if the isnt good enough? Its important that there are rewards which are only obtainalbe for a specific task in a specific time. FF XIV has a special issue with this
    Agreed, the reward philosophy in this game is one of the worst I have ever seen. Yoshi P be like:

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  4. #144
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    O-o O-o
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    Those sitting at the top ranks are definitely not safe this season. On Primal alone, the difference between rank 100 and the top 10 is about 700 pts, give or take. Top 100 is all about 20 wins from one another. Any who pvp often knows how easily your score can fluctuate hundreds of points in just one night...positive or negative.

    It's very grindable. You'll find those with a winrate 55%ish or better as rare little nuggets, most are sitting below 50% and right p there with 1400-1800 pts.

    It sometimes just comes down to rng with your teammates and hope for the best. The top 100 is far less about actual season and more about just putting in the time with a modicum of pvp understanding.
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  5. #145
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I'm all for keeping it in PVP - just making it tied to # of wins or wolf marks or something. I agree that the PVP'ers who reach the top 100 should get a trophy of some kind in addition (I'm surprised they don't already?) but then that leads us down the rabbit hole of "I don't have a house to put it in" for some people.

    RE: the Raid gear, I think what Rena meant was that as we get better weapons/armor, we're able to take down previously difficult bosses, including ones that have mounts like the primals and end bosses of Alex savage. Of course by then it's GG EZ mode but that's what happens with old content.
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  6. #146
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    Ertai Spelldragon
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I'm all for keeping it in PVP - just making it tied to # of wins or wolf marks or something. I agree that the PVP'ers who reach the top 100 should get a trophy of some kind in addition (I'm surprised they don't already?) but then that leads us down the rabbit hole of "I don't have a house to put it in" for some people.

    RE: the Raid gear, I think what Rena meant was that as we get better weapons/armor, we're able to take down previously difficult bosses, including ones that have mounts like the primals and end bosses of Alex savage. Of course by then it's GG EZ mode but that's what happens with old content.
    It is a real problem and someone is going to lose in the end. Whether it is the rated PVPer's or the collectors.
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  7. #147
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    Kai Lee
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Its a very long season, still about 4 months away, people need to calm down. This season you can have 40% - 45% and still accumulate positive points to climb the ranks as long as you keep on trying.
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  8. #148
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    Masanobu Nakanishi
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    True Collectors tend to take the extra mile in actual effort to complete their collections.
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    Last edited by Nakanishi; 11-30-2016 at 01:24 AM.

  9. #149
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Hopefully there wont be a thread from expert PvPers at the end of the season that complain about loosing the mount because so many more Non-PvPers jointed the Que and made them lose matches. Because if you have something like that as a price and people that normally wont PVP will try it to get it..well you will have a higher chance of having people in your group that have no idea about PVP which will mean that you might lose because of them.

    I still see it way better for the long run if you could win mounts and minions from achievements or with wolf marks instead of making them such a limited reward..people that joined this season for the first time will probably not stand a chance against seasoned players and this might annoy them that much that they wont come back to PVP again. But if they have a goal that they can achieve in their own time, they might just play PVP steadily.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  10. #150
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Hopefully there wont be a thread from expert PvPers at the end of the season that complain about loosing the mount because so many more Non-PvPers jointed.
    Well they can get mounts etc. for wins too and participation reward. You cant expect going in for the first time and get a top rank should be kinda obvious if ppl leave cause of that its ok. Wolf marks is the worst thing ever cause ppl can just afk to get them fast. Amount of wins? Gl ppl just stop after getting it. Players who aim for top ranked tend to be more open to learn. Top 100/10 deserve more than just reward everyone can get. Also I doubt anyone will complain since the rating gain and loss of platinum now is comparable with gold in season 1&2 so ppl are less frustrated.
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