Cap Crit or Det for Monk + Acc cap?

[TiaHariberux3]

If you want you can post your PvP set w/o a pvp specced weapon and I will post a PvP set with said relic weapon PvP specced that the set with the PvP weapon has higher crit/det than the set w/o it.

I talked about tanks and dps.

so outside of pvp

same set inside of pvp



see? your "more crit" doesnt make a difference lel the only thing u lose is abit of det which isnt that big of a deal

You gain a lot tbh. Also, look at aether's current #1 gear. He isn't the only one either, you need to be a little bit more observant.

Well excluding the healers its pretty rare for a reason and its not "alot". Lets not forget OP is new not even experienced player need this don't act like its "alot" as if it was a huge advantage over other players.

[P4X0R10N]

What are you talking about? There's nothing to compare ur stats to.

Where's the pic with ur optimized relic?

[Bartleby]

see? your "more crit" doesnt make a difference lel

Swap in customized relic with maxed Crit/det/accuracy.
Swap out 2 of your accessories with det/accuracy (or crit/accuracy) for crit/det.

Congratulations you still maintain accuracy cap while getting an extra +60 crit or w/e.

[TiaHariberux3]

Swap in customized relic with maxed Crit/det/accuracy.
Swap out 2 of your accessories with det/accuracy (or crit/accuracy) for crit/det.

Congratulations you still maintain accuracy cap while getting an extra +60 crit or w/e.

I know what u mean but if u read my edited post .... put the accuracy to the side for a moment if I go in every slot crit det I still have the amount of crit I posted in the other post yea u gain abit of stats det etc but saying its alot and is worth the effort of doing it is wrong. If you want to recommend a pvp relic to a new person and saying its a huge difference thats wrong.

[Bartleby]

put the accuracy to the side for a moment if I go in every slot crit det I still have the amount of crit I posted in the other post

Yeah, if you wore 0 accuracy you would still have the same/more det/crit but wearing 0 accuracy isn't an option unless you want to miss in the middle of your burst and basically waste your CDs.

but saying its alot and is worth the effort of doing it is wrong.

Well it's about +60 det or crit depending on which acc accessories you're using which is around +~10 STR or so. Idk how much you want to quantify as "a lot". As far as it being worth it, again up to the person, imo if you're doing a relic, and you PvP even semi regularly, you might as well do the PvP stat distribution since the secondaries won't really matter in PvE as you're either A) doing faceroll content, at which point who cares about your secondaries, or B) you're a raider and you had a better weapon months ago. If you don't feel like doing a relic, and there's plenty of people who don't, I wouldn't blame them or anything. I just make them because I have nothing else to spend my tomes on.

If you want to recommend a pvp relic to a new person and saying its a huge difference thats wrong.

No one ever said this.

[Nakanishi]

Well excluding the healers its pretty rare for a reason and its not "alot". Lets not forget OP is new not even experienced player need this don't act like its "alot" as if it was a huge advantage over other players.

It's an advantage, and "a lot" can mean anything, but it doesn't change the fact that it is better. Need a better argument than commenting on semantics.

It's still worth to get if you, like has been mentioned multiples times, intend to focus on PvP. Raid gear trumps relic, if you're really trying to max out on PvE gear, you'd raid for it. By the time the relic finally catches up to raid gear it'd be in an irrelevant catch-up patch (that'll more likely than not, unlock the raid) for 4.0 so it can be replaced in 4 levels. So no, you don't "have" to get the relic for PvE, just like you don't have to get relic for PvP. It's a preference and the stats can be changed freely through crystal sands without requiring any additional umbrites.