Is it a ToS violation to /sh spoiler of other video games?

[Fynlar]

Having a video game ruined isn't a traumatizing event. If it is then you need to sort your life. This is not something that should be a violation of ToS.

Bottom line.

Don't like it, blacklist. It's what it's there for.

If someone is doing it in the DF, then... blame SE for not letting you blacklist in there.

[Pinkie_Pie]

JUST /blacklist them if the spoil you, a simple command to fix ALL of this that doesn't require Bans of any kind.

/thread

[Yasuhiro]

Aerith d

oesn't compare to Tifa

10 char

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I'm not surprised at who is asking this question though...

Isn't it the person who was in that big kerfuffle about ninja stuff in the other thread...

[Pinkie_Pie]

Isn't it the person who was in that big kerfuffle about ninja stuff in the other thread...

She is from balmung and most people from balmung makes something outta nothing like on me "/emote licks you" around people, some people even reported me for even hugging them when they said "don't hug me" No lie...

[Jib]

"Luke, I am your father..." was said by ...... no one

"No, I am you father..." was said by Darth Vader to Luke Skywalker

!!!!!!

[JunseiKei]

I'll peel it back a bit on my end and say:

Agreed. But, what you're describing is trolling which is already established as a punishable offense. Simply spoiling a game by way of conversing about the topic or expressing an opinion on the topic is not and shouldn't be a violation. The OP asked if spoiling another game is against ToS. It is not and should not be. You can't just assume the intent when no context is provided.

Objectively, spoiling a game is not against ToS. In the context of trolling sure it is, but most things are when pursued with malice/ill intent toward other members of the community.

And I will reiterate that having a video game spoiled is in no way, shape, or form a traumatizing event. Categorizing it as such implies a level of naivety/world view that is so narrow that it is "mind bottling".

Yes and no. Trolling can be as simple as playing a harmless trick on someone, like these awesome vendors. What people come to associate most, but not all, trolling to is little more than bullying.

What you're talking about is taking things out of context in a sterile environment. Generally, unless you're new in a linkshell, free company or around people you don't really know, spoiling something accidentally is harmless because it was done out of ignorance of others' opinions and stances. However, if you're in a situation where you know people don't want spoilers, then you're being pretty malicious. Slip ups can happen, but that's also on you for not taking extra care.

That being said, reporting something like this as harassment rarely has anything come out of it simply because unless you're telling that person to stop doing what they are doing as it bothers you, a GM has no way of telling if it is harassment, other than by your word. A player's word isn't good enough. That's not opinion; you need proof. If you ask someone to stop and they keep persisting on, say, spoiling something for you, you now have grounds for harassment and proof for an investigation to be made against the offending player.

[DeadRiser]

Why is there even a freaking fight? People defending assholes that spoil shit must do it themselves.

Don't be an asshole. Problem solved.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Why is there even a freaking fight? People defending assholes that spoil shit must do it themselves.

Don't be an asshole. Problem solved.

Or you can avoid spoilers by avoiding the internet. Problem solved.

[LineageRazor]

JUST /blacklist them if the spoil you, a simple command to fix ALL of this that doesn't require Bans of any kind.

Does the blacklist not exist for this exact reason? To ignore and block out players you don't like without crying "Harassment" to the GMs (who have better things to do).

If someone in Idyllshire straight up shouts, "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!" blacklist isn't going to do you much good. The damage is already done - the troll has accomplished their goal. And, in this instance, it's pretty clear that trolling WAS the intent. It's not unreasonable to ask a GM to punish them for what was clearly an attempt to harass other players.

You have been extremely vague in your title post, are they being antagonising? intentionally disruptive? or are they having a discussion through shout? because the answer is based on how they act.

Yes, the context is important. I don't think that folks here are arguing that anyone who slips up and accidentally spoils stuff while chatting in /shout should get the banstick. A simply return shout, "Please, no spoilers!" won't fix the damage that's been done, but will hopefully make the offender more self-aware.

In the Dumbledore example, though, just a spoiler out of nowhere, it's pretty clear that the speaker is trying to provoke a reaction and ruin some folks' day. It's fair to ask that that be disciplined.