i am not mass pull tank

[MistakeNot]

Could end the thread with this honestly. It's not about time being wasted. Going at a snail's pace and not being able to use the full extent of your jobs power is not fun.

Being stressed by a tank who runs around and pull mobs like there is no tomorrow is not fun either. I always get annoyed by tanks doing big pulls - that is just making things harder for no good reason.

[Zojha]

Hmm so according to this thread and its posts, All tanks have a invisible gun to their head and the words "pull more" always whisper to them. Like if the tank doesn't want to pull more let him/her do so. Why are you forcing them to pull more if they don't like it.

Same rights to DPS and healers then however. If a DPS doesn't want to deal more damage and doesn't like the rotations, then they should also be free to not do them. And why not let a scholar /follow and go AFK if the fairy is doing the job just fine? Maybe he doesn't feel like playing today and just wants to get the daily dungeon done, so we shouldn't force him to play as long as the job is getting done. Let them if they want to do that!

It's pretty simple. If you are fine with your own inefficiency slowing down the run by 5 minutes, then you also have to be fine with 20 minutes slower runs because everyone else is doing the same as you. If you are fine with a person ignoring mechanics in raids, you also have to be fine with everyone ignoring mechanics in raids. One standard for all. If you are, great! No problem, we can all go home and stop arguing because it's a matter of different standards then. If you are not fine with that however, you're a hypocrite.

[NekoNova]

Same rights to DPS and healers then however. If a DPS doesn't want to deal more damage and doesn't like the rotations, then they should also be free to not do them. And why not let a scholar /follow and go AFK if the fairy is doing the job just fine? Maybe he doesn't feel like playing today and just wants to get the daily dungeon done, so we shouldn't force him to play as long as the job is getting done. Let them if they want to do that!

It's pretty simple. If you are fine with your own inefficiency slowing down the run by 5 minutes, then you also have to be fine with 20 minutes slower runs because everyone else is doing the same as you. If you are fine with a person ignoring mechanics in raids, you also have to be fine with everyone ignoring mechanics in raids. One standard for all. If you are, great! No problem, we can all go home and stop arguing because it's a matter of different standards then. If you are not fine with that however, you're a hypocrite.

There's a difference with playing in your comfort zone or going /follow AFK.
This is a game, not a second job where your life depends on performing in the top 10 percentile.
People are supposed to have fun playing their character.

Being afk with /follow as you suggest is another level of douchbaggery.

[Kazrah]

This post I think displays examples of Rule 1 of tanking and provides the mentality behind Rule 2 of tanking.

Rule 1: Always expect DPS to be inherently stupid.

Rule 2: Always tank like the healer's AFK.

[SilkaN]

There's a difference with playing in your comfort zone or going /follow AFK.

Being afk with /follow as you suggest is another level of douchbaggery.

What if they are most comfortable with going afk? It's just their playstyle, right? Can't blame them for having the most fun that way, right??

[MihaelB]

There's a difference with playing in your comfort zone or going /follow AFK.
This is a game, not a second job where your life depends on performing in the top 10 percentile.
People are supposed to have fun playing their character.

Being afk with /follow as you suggest is another level of douchbaggery.

Had a mentor today who did not a single DPS skill as healer. Not surprised if they macro'd heal and used Eos to heal, was frigging appalling.

[NekoNova]

What if they are most comfortable with going afk? It's just their playstyle, right? Can't blame them for having the most fun that way, right??

Nice try, but it's not a "playstyle".
Playstyle involves playing, which isn't the case when you're AFK.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Being stressed by a tank who runs around and pull mobs like there is no tomorrow is not fun either. I always get annoyed by tanks doing big pulls - that is just making things harder for no good reason.

But there is a good reason. It's efficient, utilizes the power of your jobs, is quicker, is more exciting for all roles.

Pulling one enemy at a time is just boring, makes running dungeons a drag.
I'll put it like this. If I was in the mood to just troll some random group of people wanting to get through their dailies, I'd hop on a ILV 260 tanks and single pull enemies in Xelphatol.

Does that sound mean? Well that's exactly what single pulling is.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Nice try, but it's not a "playstyle".
Playstyle involves playing, which isn't the case when you're AFK.

If you're getting healed and staying alive it's technically a playstyle. If the tank wants to play a certain way that's viable enough for him, I can play in a way that's viable enough for me. If you're not willing to out in effort with your role I won't either.

Beside, a Monk with physick crossclased could keep you up pulling single enemies at a time.

[shao32]

its party finder ppl, when you get in you can't really demand other players to follow the way you want to dealt the dungeon, the tank is how choose the number of mods he/she take like if a healer chose to use cleric or not, duty finder is for that, random ppl to clear dailys ergo random jobs with random players with diferent skill leves and state of humor, instead of sabotage the run bcs you dont like how x player do they job make a party finder or call some friends, thats why we have all of this, be water all.