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    VermilionHaru's Avatar
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    Haru Vermilion
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    Newbie trying at healing with Scholar

    Good evening

    I'm currently leveling up my first healer class which is a Scholar as you can see.
    One thing that I don't know is what attributes do I need on Scholar?
    What I recently read was that healers are supposed to deal dmg besides healing (I never looked at my healers when doing dungeons, I just focus on the mob around the party since I've played all 3 Tank classes), is it still a thing? What can you tell me about this?
    Also I would like to know what cross-class skills are recommended for Scholars.
    And if it's possible, it would be great if someone can post a guide.

    Thank you in advance
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    MND is your primary stat. Even when you are DPSing, MND is what you want.

    DPS is a choice for healer's but most people encourage it, and a lot of people dislike healer's who do not DPS. The reason you will want MND, and not INT, for your damage spells is because of Cleric Stance. When you activate Cleric Stance (CS from now on) you will switch your MND and INT stats, plus increase damage of spells by 10% but lower healing power by 20%. So the basic rule is this: Never heal in CS, and only deal damage with CS.

    DPSing as a SCH is ridiculously easy, especially in low level dungeons due to them getting free heals from their Fairy. The Fairy is not effected by your GCD or CS. It's a good idea to get use to DPSing as a SCH because they are expected to deal damage more often then the other healer's, since their kit makes it so much easier.

    SCH best cross class skills are as follows (in no particular order): Cleric Stance, Aero, Protect, Swiftcast, Stoneskin. I know some SCH like to take Blizzards II though, so that's a thing.
    If asked I would say CS and Swiftcast are by far the most important cross class abilities for a SCH to know. My brother is pretty obsessed with Aero at low levels though.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 11-22-2016 at 09:07 AM.

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    ChiiSoSeriouz's Avatar
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    Chii Soseriouz
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Yes you should be doing damage, especially as a sch because of the way the class is designed, you'll have eos healing and mitigating damage giving you ample time to contribute dps. Get used to using her on obey. If you're using selene she will only single target heal with embrace.

    Mind then critical hit rate and accuracy for your secondary stats, because damage nullification is doubled when your adlo crits, also it will boost your dps. If you're going to be raiding or doing ex primals you'll want to prioritize accuracy before crit.

    You'll need several abilities from cnj and thm, those being; cleric stance, protect, aero and stoneskin. You'll need swiftcast from thm.
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    White Mage Lv 70
    As far as a guide goes..m I personally don't think they do much good for healers. There are no real rotations you need to worry about, and healing spells are pretty straight forward.
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    familiarize yourself well with your mitigation skills and learn how to pump out large amounts of sustained/burst healing if required. Once those skills are firm and mastered, you then learn how to coordinate your healing/mitigation with your tank and co-healer. THEN finally do you learn your DPS, this is the pinnacle of your game. Don't make the mistake of learning how to 100% DPS first, there are and will be content that requires co-healing.

    PS: Virus is your friend, learn all the possible applications of it and use it so much it becomes instinct. The proper and efficient usage of this skill alone will put you above 70% of the end-game SCHs currently already in this game.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Here's the deal with healer DPS: Mob health hits zero, no one looks at you. Party member(s) health hits zero, everyone looks at you. The expectation to DPS is higher with SCH, but killing mobs will always be second to keeping everyone alive no matter which healer you choose.

    Prioritization for cross skills is as follows: Cleric Stance >> Protect >> Swiftcast >> Aero >> Blizzard 2 >> your choice of Surecast or Stoneskin, both of which are extremely situational and really won't make or break anything.

    If you have no other healer classes @30, then I strongly suggest taking your SCH into the early dungeons despite being level 30. As I am sure you are aware, damage ramps up in the 30+ dungeons and pulls start getting heavier. I wouldn't do 30+ stuff until you are comfortable and familiar with your fairy; you have her on obey, and are strategically placing her when possible.

    Most guides I've read are outdated. Experience, making mistakes, and learning from them are your best friends here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post

    Prioritization for cross skills is as follows: Cleric Stance >> Protect >> Swiftcast >> Aero >> Blizzard 2 >> your choice of Surecast or Stoneskin, both of which are extremely situational and really won't make or break anything.
    You're prioritizing bliz2 and surecast over stoneskin.. lol. You know, when you're paired with an ast and they have to cast stoneskin 8 times every pull they might not agree with your decision.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz View Post
    You're prioritizing bliz2 and surecast over stoneskin.. lol. You know, when you're paired with an ast and they have to cast stoneskin 8 times every pull they might not agree with your decision.
    I'll agree with this. Yes, Bliz2 is good DPS filler for massive pulls, but I would not take it over Stoneskin unless for a specific purpose. I think the last time I slotted it was before my break from the game and I was using it to help AoE in progression in A2S or something.

    There is no room for Surecast, and Stoneskin is very handy for dungeon runs and for boss invuln phases if you have nothing better to do.
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz View Post
    You're prioritizing bliz2 and surecast over stoneskin.. lol. You know, when you're paired with an ast and they have to cast stoneskin 8 times every pull they might not agree with your decision.
    I agree, as well as stoneskin + adlo is insane for pulls or just to throw on before a boss to give you more time to dps in 4 mans. I have found 0 reasons to put bliz2 or surecast on my sch and no one has given me a good argument as to a reason to place them there. Bliz2 over aero maybe for faceroll dungeons, but that's it.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz View Post
    You're prioritizing bliz2 and surecast over stoneskin.. lol. You know, when you're paired with an ast and they have to cast stoneskin 8 times every pull they might not agree with your decision.
    Nah, I'll take blizz 2 anyday over those, and I didn't prioritize Surecast over SS. I left it OP's choice. SCH has adlo, succor, and eye4eye on a shorter CD than those who cross it. These are enough to get up both Shadow Flare and Bane, and that is without mention of fairy heals.

    Trust me, I've tried both combinations. The additional damage mitigation is nice, but it really doesn't weigh against the dmg output on large pulls from blizz 2 and your fairy is keeping you in Cleric. And even when the mob pool is too small to warrant blizz 2, I'd sooner use my CD on broil than SS. AST need only cast stoneskin on the tank pre pull, and I would frown at one who casts SS on everyone pre pull. If it makes them more comfortable before a boss, sure. But on trash?
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